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Thirteen people injured. Statistically this will have an impact on the injury stats for the town/county figures. In the past this could have justified having a speed camera at the location, based on the number of injuries, which underlies the stupidity of that system of accident analysis.
Stats 19 is an improvement, but the planners still look at headline numbers of DEATHS and INJURIES, without relating them to the number of INCIDENTS, which is the REAL measure of the safety record of a given stretch of road, and THEN relating them to the causes.
We don't judge aircraft safety on the number of victims, but on the number of accident events, and they DO record and take into account near misses, where as on the road, ONLY death or injury accidents are recorded.
Our local district council are urging the adoption of 20 mph limits on all minor roads, yet one of the councillors while trying to debunk a theory that workers may be later to work, stated that mathematically his journey across town should take EIGHT minutes at 30 mph, while at 20 mph it would still only take TWELVE minutes - so he put it to the test and found that due to traffic lights, roundabouts etc. his journey actually took SEVENTEEN minutes... an average of just THIRTEEN mph!!
In spite of this he is still determined to splash out council tax payers money on traffic orders and signage on a pointless measure.
This is the same council that pedestrianised a busy main route through the town, which had never had a fatal accident, but allowed busses and taxis to continue along the route, which quickly saw the death of an elderly lady who walked into the side of a bus!
So who is best equipped to evaluate road safety statistics, and come up with sensible and effective strategies? Councils? Police? DfT? Or should we leave it to BRAKE?
Thirteen people injured. Statistically this will have an impact on the injury stats for the town/county figures. In the past this could have justified having a speed camera at the location, based on the number of injuries, which underlies the stupidity of that system of accident analysis.
Stats 19 is an improvement, but the planners still look at headline numbers of DEATHS and INJURIES, without relating them to the number of INCIDENTS, which is the REAL measure of the safety record of a given stretch of road, and THEN relating them to the causes.
We don't judge aircraft safety on the number of victims, but on the number of accident events, and they DO record and take into account near misses, where as on the road, ONLY death or injury accidents are recorded.
Our local district council are urging the adoption of 20 mph limits on all minor roads, yet one of the councillors while trying to debunk a theory that workers may be later to work, stated that mathematically his journey across town should take EIGHT minutes at 30 mph, while at 20 mph it would still only take TWELVE minutes - so he put it to the test and found that due to traffic lights, roundabouts etc. his journey actually took SEVENTEEN minutes... an average of just THIRTEEN mph!!
In spite of this he is still determined to splash out council tax payers money on traffic orders and signage on a pointless measure.
This is the same council that pedestrianised a busy main route through the town, which had never had a fatal accident, but allowed busses and taxis to continue along the route, which quickly saw the death of an elderly lady who walked into the side of a bus!
So who is best equipped to evaluate road safety statistics, and come up with sensible and effective strategies? Councils? Police? DfT? Or should we leave it to BRAKE?
The daft thing is we employ or elect these people to represent us but they get influenced by minorities who insist their view is gospel. It's about time these folk were accountable to the public.
I'm sure I've read somewhere that 20mph speed limits reduce pedestrians sense of risk and they aren't as careful around traffic. A speed limit of 40mph in residential areas is supposed to actually be safer bizarrely.
I'm sure I've read somewhere that 20mph speed limits reduce pedestrians sense of risk and they aren't as careful around traffic. A speed limit of 40mph in residential areas is supposed to actually be safer bizarrely.
The aircraft industry seems to manage this fine - does anyone know if railway safety is allowed to be governed by a bunch of incompetent or ill informed do gooders?
Like aircraft, they see the near miss as of the same risk potential as an actual collision, and include it in risk assessments and in setting safety criteria.
Incidentally, the CPS are today calling for the decision on whether to prosecute drivers involved in collisions with cyclists, to be handed to them, rather than with the police as is presently the case.
It appears to follow incidents in which the police investigations have been deemed to be not robust enough by relatives of cyclists.
Like aircraft, they see the near miss as of the same risk potential as an actual collision, and include it in risk assessments and in setting safety criteria.
Incidentally, the CPS are today calling for the decision on whether to prosecute drivers involved in collisions with cyclists, to be handed to them, rather than with the police as is presently the case.
It appears to follow incidents in which the police investigations have been deemed to be not robust enough by relatives of cyclists.
Dammit said:
Unless, of course, you count the representative whom you elect - or are you suggesting that as a motorist you don't have a vote, because I can from personal experience tell you that you are mistaken?
As I showed in the first post, ONE elected representative is hell bent on spending money reducing a speed limit which even he admits the existing speed is lower than his intended limit.He did NOT state in his manifesto that he was a complete moron who wished to waste money on a whim, and mistaken belief that drivers were going too fast.
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