Selling a SORN/No MOT car
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I've just sold a car with no MOT/insurance and declared SORN on ebay. The buyer will be travelling about 2 hours to collect it and I suspect he plans to drive it somewhere. I believe that I have a legal responsibility to prevent anyone from illegally test driving the car on public roads but how far do my legal responsibilities go once the cash has been handed over and documents signed?
I just want to get my ducks in a row so I know where I stand when I discuss this with the buyer. I'd rather have the sale fall through when he's still 2 hours away rather than having an argument on my front porch.
I just want to get my ducks in a row so I know where I stand when I discuss this with the buyer. I'd rather have the sale fall through when he's still 2 hours away rather than having an argument on my front porch.
General Fluff said:
I've just sold a car with no MOT/insurance and declared SORN on ebay. The buyer will be travelling about 2 hours to collect it and I suspect he plans to drive it somewhere. I believe that I have a legal responsibility to prevent anyone from illegally test driving the car on public roads but how far do my legal responsibilities go once the cash has been handed over and documents signed?
I just want to get my ducks in a row so I know where I stand when I discuss this with the buyer. I'd rather have the sale fall through when he's still 2 hours away rather than having an argument on my front porch.
If it's still your car and you allow him to test drive it without MOT, tax or (potentially) insurance, then you could commit a number of offences.I just want to get my ducks in a row so I know where I stand when I discuss this with the buyer. I'd rather have the sale fall through when he's still 2 hours away rather than having an argument on my front porch.
But once the money has been handed over and he has become the lawful owner of the vehicle, it's no longer your responsibility.
Would suggest both parties sign a receipt confirming date and time the transfer was completed.
My initial thoughts would be that once the car is sold, that's the end of your involvement. I know you have a duty to not let anyone drive your car whilst knowingly uninsured, but that's it. Once you've sold the car and have proof of this, then whatever the new owner does is up to them at their risk.
That said, a quick email or text to the guy confirming the time and date of collection, and oh yes don't forget the car has no MOT and is currently SORN'd, won't go amiss to save the argument.
I don't see you've any responsibility though once it's no longer yours. Well, maybe morally you might want to call the police the second he drives away, especially if you don't think he's insured, but otherwise I see no issue.
That said, a quick email or text to the guy confirming the time and date of collection, and oh yes don't forget the car has no MOT and is currently SORN'd, won't go amiss to save the argument.
I don't see you've any responsibility though once it's no longer yours. Well, maybe morally you might want to call the police the second he drives away, especially if you don't think he's insured, but otherwise I see no issue.
SS2. said:
If it's still your car and you allow him to test drive it without MOT, tax or (potentially) insurance, then you could commit a number of offences.
But once the money has been handed over and he has become the lawful owner of the vehicle, it's no longer your responsibility.
Would suggest both parties sign a receipt confirming date and time the transfer was completed.
Except that OP will still be the RK until DVLA receive notification of the change, so may have to deal with any indiscretions on the part of the new keeper (NB, I'm not saying OP is liable, just that any correspondence will come to him and have to be dealt with). OP would be well advised to have a proper receipt to show exactly when (date and time) the change of owner occurred.But once the money has been handed over and he has become the lawful owner of the vehicle, it's no longer your responsibility.
Would suggest both parties sign a receipt confirming date and time the transfer was completed.
I'd be advising the purchaser to bring a trailer, or proof of insurance and an MOT booking for his own safety.
OP when he has handed you the money go online with the buyer and google "I sold my car" you do not have to fill out the V5 as you can do it all online and see the link "Tell DVLA you've sold or bought a vehicle - GOV.UK".Both peoples details and E-mail addresses and as soon as the document is completed you will both be sent an E-mail,yours saying you are no longer the registered keeper of the vehicle and that will be confirmed with a letter from the DVLA a few days later and a refund of tax if it is due (not in your case).The buyer will get an E-mail saying he is the new registered keeper of the vehicle and will get a new V5 in the post in a few days.
The good thing is that both E-mails will have the same time and date before he leaves to drive home.If there are any issues when he drives home regarding no tax,MOT,speeding or parking tickets etc the time in the E-mail will confirm the buyer was the registered keeper at the time.
Edited to say I have just seen the above post.
The good thing is that both E-mails will have the same time and date before he leaves to drive home.If there are any issues when he drives home regarding no tax,MOT,speeding or parking tickets etc the time in the E-mail will confirm the buyer was the registered keeper at the time.
Edited to say I have just seen the above post.
Edited by btcc123 on Wednesday 28th October 15:43
Edited by btcc123 on Wednesday 28th October 15:44
Edited by btcc123 on Wednesday 28th October 15:45
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