Do i have any recourse with the retailer?
Do i have any recourse with the retailer?
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R1 Indy

Original Poster:

4,510 posts

213 months

Monday 2nd November 2015
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back in July i purchased a new MAP sensor from a large european car parts online store.

ever since fitting, I've had issues with running, i have now replaced with a genuine Honda part and runs perfect.

So obvious a faulty part.

Have just contacted them, they claim as its outside of 30 days, they can't/refuse/against company policy to refund.

All they are willing to do is to send it off to the manufacturer which will take 4-6 weeks!

Am i being unreasonable in expecting them to sort it out a bit quicker than this?

Do i have any rights to take this up with the retailer?

Cheers

cheesesliceking

1,577 posts

270 months

Monday 2nd November 2015
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How would it be done any quicker? Would you suggest ECP test it themselves or perhaps pay a third party to do it, would you expect them to pay for that because you don’t want to wait that long?

thescamper

920 posts

256 months

Monday 2nd November 2015
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When did you report the issue to them?

anothernameitist

1,500 posts

165 months

Monday 2nd November 2015
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R1 Indy said:
back in July i purchased a new MAP sensor from a large european car parts online store.

ever since fitting, I've had issues with running, Cheers
30 day returns policy... It was 1st November yesterday
HTH

TooLateForAName

4,933 posts

214 months

Monday 2nd November 2015
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Was it a cheap aftermarket jobby?

I'm very careful what I buy from ecp - soome stuff is ok, but there is also plenty of cheap crap.

Retroman

975 posts

163 months

Monday 2nd November 2015
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Your rights are with the seller you bought it from.
As it's outside 30 days you are entitled to have it repaired or replaced but you can't force them to do a refund.

datum77

470 posts

151 months

Monday 2nd November 2015
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Retroman is absolutely right. In law - your contract was with the parts company that sold you the unit and NOT, repeat NOT with the unit maker. Therefore your parts company should either reimburse you the cost or replace it with another unit. The law say's that they then have to take up the problem of the faulty unit with the manufacturer - that's NOT you. I repeat, thats the law.
If they insist on sending the unit back to the manufacturer, that action should NOT leave you in limbo, without the use of your car. Give you another unit while you both wait for the response from the manufacturer.

thelawnet1

1,539 posts

185 months

Monday 2nd November 2015
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You are SOL really. You bought an el-crapo part, which you then found to be faulty by buying an original one.

They must repair or replace, within a reasonable time, but that doesn't really help you as the replacement/repaired part is of no value to you, as you've already bought a good one.

petrolbloke

521 posts

187 months

Monday 2nd November 2015
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Accept a replacement, fit it, prove it to be faulty (again), repeat until they give you a refund? hehe

If they have any common sense they'll just refund you now and save both parties the hassle. Maybe worth an e-mail to their customer services?

http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/shopping/consumer...
According to this you have a 'reasonable time' to request a full refund, not limited to 30 days.

Edited by petrolbloke on Monday 2nd November 19:00

Mojooo

13,291 posts

210 months

Monday 2nd November 2015
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Sale of Goods Act applies.

Their 30 day period is irrelevant.As is the new 30 days introduced by the consuemr rights act 2015.

you had a reasonable time to inspect the goods and accept it - so depending on how ocmplex the aprt is that probably would have extended to a few weeks. after that it is down to repair/repalcement - however if it is causing you significant inceonvenience then you can move to a partial refund minus deduction for use.

they will argue that no refund can be made after 30 days and you will have to accept a repair - but if they cannot repair it without significant inconvenience then the SOGA says you can ask for a refund.

Red Devil

13,527 posts

238 months

Monday 2nd November 2015
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https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/Global/CitizensA...

OP, the Consumer Rights Act 2015 doesn't apply to your purchase as it took place before the Act came into force on October 1st.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2015/1630/conte...

You will be relying on SOGA Section 48(A).
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1979/54/sectio...

A lot of people are under the mistaken impression that they are entitled to a refund in the first six months. That is not the case. It is for the seller to prove that the fault was not pre-existing at the time of purchase which most will struggle to do, but in such cases your rights are for a repair or replacement.

Repairing a MAP sensor would not be a practical exercise. As the the OEM unit you bought works, get a replacement for the faulty unit and sell it.

R1 Indy

Original Poster:

4,510 posts

213 months

Tuesday 3rd November 2015
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Thanks guys, i will try again and see if i can get a replacement and flog on eBay.

If not i will probably lose patience and launch in the bin!!