taking the awareness course?
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mygoldfishbowl said:
They obviously work well then. 
A nanny state nice employment scheme for smug t
ts that replaced police officer discretionat the roadside .years ago you would have a copper that would leave you feeling guilty about what you had done and why it was bad for you and others now they are just wardens and getting a ticket now feels like you parked in the wrong place not that you broke a law that could impact the lives of others...
Edited by powerstroke on Saturday 5th December 08:16
powerstroke said:
A nanny state nice employment scheme for smug tts that replaced police officer discretion
at the roadside .years ago you would have a copper that would leave you feeling guilty about what you had done and why it was bad for you and others now they are just wardens and getting a ticket now feels like you parked in the wrong place not that you broke a law that could impact the lives of others...
Shame they don't do a punctuation awareness course.ts that replaced police officer discretionat the roadside .years ago you would have a copper that would leave you feeling guilty about what you had done and why it was bad for you and others now they are just wardens and getting a ticket now feels like you parked in the wrong place not that you broke a law that could impact the lives of others...
Edited by powerstroke on Saturday 5th December 08:16
powerstroke said:
mygoldfishbowl said:
They obviously work well then.
A nanny state nice employment scheme for smug t
ts that replaced police officer discretionat the roadside .years ago you would have a copper that would leave you feeling guilty about what you had done and why it was bad for you and others now they are just wardens and getting a ticket now feels like you parked in the wrong place not that you broke a law that could impact the lives of others...
Edited by powerstroke on Saturday 5th December 08:16
Its all computerised,scamera,(I was doing 36mph down a hill),automated NIP reply,book and pay online,at £95 a time its a nice little earner for the AA.
powerstroke said:
mygoldfishbowl said:
They obviously work well then.
A nanny state nice employment scheme for smug t
ts that replaced police officer discretionat the roadside .years ago you would have a copper that would leave you feeling guilty about what you had done and why it was bad for you and others now they are just wardens and getting a ticket now feels like you parked in the wrong place not that you broke a law that could impact the lives of others...
Edited by powerstroke on Saturday 5th December 08:16
The reason why so many people would like to see police officer discretion is that then they have a chance of being let off.
I couldn't agree more, all there seems to be is an obsession with speed enforcement via remote control, not enforcing offences such as poor lane discipline, tailgating, driving without due care and attention, use of mobile phones etc. As a motorcyclist I can't believe the amount of people who don't see me because they are fking about and concentrating on something else, like updating their sodding Facebook page.
king about and concentrating on something else, like updating their sodding Facebook page.I did one last week, 23 people all paying £95 to the AA to be crammed into a small stuffy hotel conference room and be patronised and treated like idiots for four hours.
If you are deemed to have participated enough then they will graciously pass you and you won't get any points. I quickly figured a dumb deaf blind mute could pass , just turn up sit down and leave when the 4 hours is up.
The choice is yours, is it worth four hours of your time to save 3 points from your licence??
Right old fking scam for AA Drivetech. Even had the cheek to spend 20 mins "teaching" us Eco driving techniques. Load of complete and utter bks.
If you are deemed to have participated enough then they will graciously pass you and you won't get any points. I quickly figured a dumb deaf blind mute could pass , just turn up sit down and leave when the 4 hours is up.
The choice is yours, is it worth four hours of your time to save 3 points from your licence??
Right old f
king scam for AA Drivetech. Even had the cheek to spend 20 mins "teaching" us Eco driving techniques. Load of complete and utter bks.Edited by Blaster72 on Saturday 5th December 21:48
I just got a NIP through for 58 in a 50. Going to take the course to keep my license clean. In a strange way I'm looking forward to it, be good to see who's on the course and what their opinion on the matter is.
Seens as I'm here, what's the timescales for this kind of thing, i.e. once I've sent my info back, when will I expect an offer back (points or course) and how soon are course dates available? Can't really be arsed with it this side of the new year.
In Cumbria.
Slightly annoyed about the whole affair really, was on a windy 50 (A66 Bassenthwaite; kind of a dual carriageway except the oncoming traffic is the normal 60 and is about 15-20 yards away through what is essentially a forest) behind someone who didn't want to do more than 40 but also didn't like me overtaking them so had to go a bit quicker to get past. But hey ho, I broke the law, these things happen, grand scheme of things, etc.
Seens as I'm here, what's the timescales for this kind of thing, i.e. once I've sent my info back, when will I expect an offer back (points or course) and how soon are course dates available? Can't really be arsed with it this side of the new year.
In Cumbria.
Slightly annoyed about the whole affair really, was on a windy 50 (A66 Bassenthwaite; kind of a dual carriageway except the oncoming traffic is the normal 60 and is about 15-20 yards away through what is essentially a forest) behind someone who didn't want to do more than 40 but also didn't like me overtaking them so had to go a bit quicker to get past. But hey ho, I broke the law, these things happen, grand scheme of things, etc.
^^ This is what I wrote in a recent thread about the courses. My mind has not changed on the subject..
mygoldfishbowl said:
I went on a course recently, I hated it & nearly walked out at the point I realised they would be trying to make us interact with other people & the instructors themselves. I don't enjoy interacting, so I didn't. They divided us all into groups of 4 to interact, I didn't, so there was some groups of 4, 1 group of 3 & 1 group of 1, me. I hate interacting.
Also everything was in confidence so when the multiple choice questions were being answered there was no way of telling who knew what, so I could have selected the most ridiculous answers & no one would have been any the wiser.
For some reason some people wanted to tell a story, to get a point across. I didn't give a flying feck what their point was no more than they would have cared what mine was, but I neither had a point or a story & just wished these people would shut the hell up so we could all get away on time.
One fella got asked to leave for repeatedly falling asleep which was the highlight of the whole 4 hours.
I hated it & will never ever go on one again what ever the circumstances as long as I live.
Also everything was in confidence so when the multiple choice questions were being answered there was no way of telling who knew what, so I could have selected the most ridiculous answers & no one would have been any the wiser.
For some reason some people wanted to tell a story, to get a point across. I didn't give a flying feck what their point was no more than they would have cared what mine was, but I neither had a point or a story & just wished these people would shut the hell up so we could all get away on time.
One fella got asked to leave for repeatedly falling asleep which was the highlight of the whole 4 hours.
I hated it & will never ever go on one again what ever the circumstances as long as I live.
I did one for a petty infringement that a copper wouldn't have batted an eyelid over. I have done the IAM stuff so had most of the answers - which was a first for me in a classroom 
Many didn't have a clue about reading the road etc so on that level many learnt lots. Had a couple of 'I don't agree' pleasant discussions with the (petrolhead biker) tutor and even picked up a bit of business there and met an old mate! It was very little to do with speed and no preaching - was prepared to stand up for the people if it had been preachy BS !!!
Something stinks in it all though on the nepotistic front and i bet the ACPO get their Xmas bash funded by them, in the Bahamas!
Many didn't have a clue about reading the road etc so on that level many learnt lots. Had a couple of 'I don't agree' pleasant discussions with the (petrolhead biker) tutor and even picked up a bit of business there and met an old mate! It was very little to do with speed and no preaching - was prepared to stand up for the people if it had been preachy BS !!!Something stinks in it all though on the nepotistic front and i bet the ACPO get their Xmas bash funded by them, in the Bahamas!
I did one for 37 in a 30. Guilty as charged. You normally cannot get above 25 on that road, but it was a sunny Sunday morning, road completely empty, and this dozy tt forgot to watch his speed.
I felt the £95 and four hours between 5 and 9 pm was worth it to keep the points off my licence.
I thought the course could have been 2 hours shorter, but the subject matter covered was pretty good. I was the only one out of 22 there who knew all the speed limits, which slightly surprised me as I had noticed at least one other person who didn't brake down from 80 to 55 when passing a speed camera on the dual carriageway A1. But hey ho.
What I did learn was how important it was to drive even slower in 20 and 30 limits near schools, shops, parked cars etc - it's too late when you have killed the child that runs out in front of you, and your collision speed increases by 3 times the extra miles per hour you are doing.
I also learnt that when sitting in the centre of the road to turn right, do not turn your wheels ready to move off - if you get rammed up the back by some 18 wheeled ahole fiddling with his mobile, you will be rammed where your wheels are pointing - ie straight into the front of the truck coming the other way if your wheels are turned.
I then did a second speed awareness course the next day - flat out at cadwell park in my TVR
t forgot to watch his speed.I felt the £95 and four hours between 5 and 9 pm was worth it to keep the points off my licence.
I thought the course could have been 2 hours shorter, but the subject matter covered was pretty good. I was the only one out of 22 there who knew all the speed limits, which slightly surprised me as I had noticed at least one other person who didn't brake down from 80 to 55 when passing a speed camera on the dual carriageway A1. But hey ho.
What I did learn was how important it was to drive even slower in 20 and 30 limits near schools, shops, parked cars etc - it's too late when you have killed the child that runs out in front of you, and your collision speed increases by 3 times the extra miles per hour you are doing.
I also learnt that when sitting in the centre of the road to turn right, do not turn your wheels ready to move off - if you get rammed up the back by some 18 wheeled a
hole fiddling with his mobile, you will be rammed where your wheels are pointing - ie straight into the front of the truck coming the other way if your wheels are turned.I then did a second speed awareness course the next day - flat out at cadwell park in my TVR
Gunk said:
I couldn't agree more, all there seems to be is an obsession with speed enforcement via remote control, not enforcing offences such as poor lane discipline, tailgating, driving without due care and attention, use of mobile phones etc. As a motorcyclist I can't believe the amount of people who don't see me because they are fking about and concentrating on something else, like updating their sodding Facebook page.
There's no money in any of those other more dangerous driving habits.king about and concentrating on something else, like updating their sodding Facebook page.There is also the small matter of paying for police officers, as, contrary to the apparent assumptions of some on PH, and/or the view of some here that no public servant should be paid anything at all, police officers aren't free. Nor are their cars and kit and so on. Even allowing for the fact that the Government could spend money more wisely (one fancy missile dropped on an empty shed where some ISIS bloke was last week but isn't now would pay for a lot of coppers), the sheer volume of traffic on UK roads means that, to achieve the level of active and discretion based traffic policing desired by those who go on about automated speed enforcement, we would have to have a huuuuuuuuuuuuge police force (not something that is much fun in a free nation) and stump up mega bling for it.
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