The death of fixed penalties?
Discussion
If any motorist that I deal with doesn't want a fixed penalty, they can elect to be heard before a court..
The fixed penality is offered to the driver as an alternative to a court appearance.
If the driver doesn't wish to partake in the scheme, they can have their time in court, with a loss of working day, waiting around at court, potentially more points and certainly court costs...
The fixed penality is offered to the driver as an alternative to a court appearance.
If the driver doesn't wish to partake in the scheme, they can have their time in court, with a loss of working day, waiting around at court, potentially more points and certainly court costs...
Streetcop said:
If the driver doesn't wish to partake in the scheme, they can have their time in court, with a loss of working day, waiting around at court, potentially more points and certainly court costs...
Unfortunately that is all to true - the system is heavily stacked to make people role over and take it on the chin - even if they are innocent.
If the driver is foolish enough to attempt to try and proove their innocence it is a lengthy and costly procedure, even if successful the courts will not cover the driver's legal costs, loss of earnings etc....
And if they are unsuccessful the punishment is steeper than the original penalty - justice blair style.....
mybrainhurts said:
Exactly....if it's unlawful for you to issue fixed penalties, the Court system will collapse.
Fixed penalties are here to stay. Fact. 'dry you eyes mate' the song goes..
As for everybody electing for a court hearing..
In the UK ....
I'm afraid co-ordinating such a thing would be impossible.... All that needs to happen now is for everyone to abide by the speed limit for a month and the majority of SCPs will run out of cash, but we can't even do that..
Strassencop said:
Exactly....if it's unlawful for you to issue fixed penalties, the Court system will collapse.
Fixed penalties are here to stay. Fact. 'dry you eyes mate' the song goes..
As for everybody electing for a court hearing..
But that ist our right - Liebchen - und it would be one heck of a protest. It might led to right kind of tolerance und death of PC Gatso...
Strassencop said:
All that needs to happen now is for everyone to abide by the speed limit for a month and the majority of SCPs will run out of cash, but we can't even do that..
We did have a "starve the cameras" campaign... but they would adjust to 31 mph to keep the dosh flowing
On the other hand - we could create total gridlock by crawling around at 15 mph - but we do that on the motorway most mornings
Streetcop said:
Exactly....if it's unlawful for you to issue fixed penalties, the Court system will collapse.
Fixed penalties are here to stay. Fact. 'dry you eyes mate' the song goes..
As for everybody electing for a court hearing..
All that needs to happen now is for everyone to abide by the speed limit for a month and the majority of SCPs will run out of cash, but we can't even do that..
Not quite, it needn't be as drastic as actually complying with speed limits. All you need to do is avoid getting caught.
Best wishes all,
Dave - still hoping he hasn't already been done!
TripleS said:
mybrainhurts said:
Exactly....if it's unlawful for you to issue fixed penalties, the Court system will collapse.
Fixed penalties are here to stay. Fact. 'dry you eyes mate' the song goes..
As for everybody electing for a court hearing..
All that needs to happen now is for everyone to abide by the speed limit for a month and the majority of SCPs will run out of cash, but we can't even do that..
Not quite, it needn't be as drastic as actually complying with speed limits. All you need to do is avoid getting caught.
Best wishes all,
Dave - still hoping he hasn't already been done!
Well I've been doing my bit for 10 years!!!
Cheers,
Steve.
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