Being breathalysed and the lung condition CPD.
Being breathalysed and the lung condition CPD.
Author
Discussion

Nigel Worc's

Original Poster:

8,121 posts

218 months

Saturday 12th December 2015
quotequote all
Hello chaps, no real reason for the post I just thought I'd share my experience.

We have all seen the TV Police programs where people say they cannot complete the breathalyser test due to lung conditions, CPD, asthma, whatever.

Sadly (for me), earlier in the year I was diagnosed with the CPD condition, all my own fault by smoking, and I have 59% of the lung function a 54 year old chap should have (apparently that means I'm rather poorly), and I must admit I had wondered about the breathalyser, should I be asked.

I was stopped last night on one of the Christmas campaign jobbies the Police do, near Powick, Worcestershire.

I did explain to the lady constable that I'd been diagnosed, and I was unsure what would happen but was perfectly willing to have a go, and it was an absolute piece of piss.

So the people on the TV shows are either very very ill, and would be unable to walk around the outside of their vehicle without becoming breathless, or they're just extracting the urine.

I blew 0 in case anyone wonders.

Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

158 months

Saturday 12th December 2015
quotequote all
They are designed so that even the oldest and weakest lung'd amongst us would be able to do it. The majority of the people trying it on on tv will be charged with failing to provide, or would realise they weren't fooling anyone, and provide on the station machine.

rs1952

5,247 posts

289 months

Saturday 12th December 2015
quotequote all
Mk3Spitfire said:
They are designed so that even the oldest and weakest lung'd amongst us would be able to do it. The majority of the people trying it on on tv will be charged with failing to provide, or would realise they weren't fooling anyone, and provide on the station machine.
Interesting, and a matter that I am interested in for much the same reason as Nigel, having smoked for half a century. You never know what's around the corner...

I have been breathalysed 3 times in my driving career, blowing green twice and amber once, and all prior to 1991. As I recall, the things did need rather a lot of wind blown into them before the Plods in charge of the situation were happy.

So was I just trying to blow too hard, were the Plods concerned extracting the Michael. or has the design of these things changed over the years?

davemac250

4,499 posts

235 months

Saturday 12th December 2015
quotequote all
New machines.

Very easy to blow into.

Anyone making out that they can't do it gets charged.

Not up to me to make that distinction and to date nobody has been found not guilty using that defence.

I've used the machine. If you can stand up, you can give a sample.

Nigel Worc's

Original Poster:

8,121 posts

218 months

Saturday 12th December 2015
quotequote all
Has either the machine design changed, or the method of getting samples been altered ?

I have been breathalysed many many times over the years, both by the Police and RAF, and have had my time requesting samples from others.

It is the first time for me that I wasn't asked if I smoked, or when I'd had my last cigarette.

I haven't had one for four months, so it wasn't an issue, but can the machines accept smokey breath now ?

I had however been using my e-cig thing just moments before the test, and still blew 0, so they obviously don't have any effect.

Steff1965

1,128 posts

225 months

Saturday 12th December 2015
quotequote all
Nigel Worc's said:
Hello chaps, no real reason for the post I just thought I'd share my experience.

We have all seen the TV Police programs where people say they cannot complete the breathalyser test due to lung conditions, CPD, asthma, whatever.

Sadly (for me), earlier in the year I was diagnosed with the CPD condition, all my own fault by smoking, and I have 59% of the lung function a 54 year old chap should have (apparently that means I'm rather poorly), and I must admit I had wondered about the breathalyser, should I be asked.

I was stopped last night on one of the Christmas campaign jobbies the Police do, near Powick, Worcestershire.

I did explain to the lady constable that I'd been diagnosed, and I was unsure what would happen but was perfectly willing to have a go, and it was an absolute piece of piss.

So the people on the TV shows are either very very ill, and would be unable to walk around the outside of their vehicle without becoming breathless, or they're just extracting the urine.

I blew 0 in case anyone wonders.
I have emphysema and only 40% of my lung capacity left but can complete the test.

Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

158 months

Saturday 12th December 2015
quotequote all
The station machines ONLY pick up alcohol. If it detects any other substance it will void the sample. Things like turning radios off, smoking, mints etc make no difference, but it's not worth someone trying to raise it as a defence, hence all the questions that you get asked.
On one occasion, someone provided a positive breath sample, but raised the defence that one of the screws on the machine was loose. I can't remember if that was accepted, but it did mean that the machine was redesigned so that the screws could not come loose. People will try anything when desperate. Also know of people drinking the hand sanitiser in custody....sadly for them it's alcohol free sanitiser...so all they got was a rather nasty taste in their mouth.

Edited by Mk3Spitfire on Saturday 12th December 23:02