Daytime running lights
Discussion
I can't understand why they're not wired up to the rear lights too. If you need lights on then you need them front and rear, if you don't need them on why have them on at all? I see so many people in poor light not bothering to switch their lights on because the DRLs are on, this alone must cause more problems than if they didn't exist.
Cat said:
Running lamps are not obligatory lamps but if fitted they must work. See regulation 23 of the Road Vehicles Lighting Regs 1989 for details.
A spare wheel doesn't need to be road legal unless it is fitted and the vehicle is being used.
Cat
Brilliant, thank you. A spare wheel doesn't need to be road legal unless it is fitted and the vehicle is being used.
Cat
Edited by Cat on Tuesday 15th December 11:16
Bit of a disagreement with one of the managers at work.
Cat said:
Running lamps are not obligatory lamps but if fitted they must work. See regulation 23 of the Road Vehicles Lighting Regs 1989 for details.
A spare wheel doesn't need to be road legal unless it is fitted and the vehicle is being used.
Cat
What if they're switch off-able like some of the early adopters were?A spare wheel doesn't need to be road legal unless it is fitted and the vehicle is being used.
Cat
Edited by Cat on Tuesday 15th December 11:16
vanordinaire said:
I can't understand why they're not wired up to the rear lights too. If you need lights on then you need them front and rear, if you don't need them on why have them on at all?
Because pedestrians step in front of cars and other vehicles pull out in front of cars because they don't see the car coming. Not many accidents happen because you didn't see it going!!!!!TwigtheWonderkid said:
vanordinaire said:
I can't understand why they're not wired up to the rear lights too. If you need lights on then you need them front and rear, if you don't need them on why have them on at all?
Because pedestrians step in front of cars and other vehicles pull out in front of cars because they don't see the car coming. Not many accidents happen because you didn't see it going!!!!!vanordinaire said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
vanordinaire said:
I can't understand why they're not wired up to the rear lights too. If you need lights on then you need them front and rear, if you don't need them on why have them on at all?
Because pedestrians step in front of cars and other vehicles pull out in front of cars because they don't see the car coming. Not many accidents happen because you didn't see it going!!!!!
t behind knowing full well there's a car in front of him but driving to far close to it. Rear DRLs will not change that. They might even make it worse, in making brake lights less visible.TwigtheWonderkid said:
It's a daft idea. Rear end collisions aren't caused by the car in front blending in to the background and not being visible. They are caused by the tt behind knowing full well there's a car in front of him but driving to far close to it. Rear DRLs will not change that. They might even make it worse, in making brake lights less visible.
Being a motorbike commuter in London, there are SO many cars about with just DRL's on in the dark it's not funny, their dashboards are lit up as through the headlights are on. Some DRL's are too bright people are using them as headlights.t behind knowing full well there's a car in front of him but driving to far close to it. Rear DRLs will not change that. They might even make it worse, in making brake lights less visible.gavgavgav said:
Being a motorbike commuter in London, there are SO many cars about with just DRL's on in the dark it's not funny, their dashboards are lit up as through the headlights are on. Some DRL's are too bright people are using them as headlights.
Unfortunately idiots will be idiots, regardless. But my car has DRLs but the dashboard does not light up when they are on in isolation. I also have auto lights, and when they come on, that's when the dash gets illuminated. Same on my last car. Swervin_Mervin said:
What if they're switch off-able like some of the early adopters were?
Whether they can be switched off or not is neither here nor there as the lighting regs don't stipulate that running lights must be illuminated at all times. Reg 23 simply requires that if fitted the lamps must be in good working order and clean. Cat
TwigtheWonderkid said:
btcc123 said:
I have just got a 2016 model car that has DRL in the front and when they are the only lights on also has DRL on the rear,LED I think.
Don't they drown out the brake lights. There are concerns on some models (Nissan Qashcow) that the front DRLs drown out the indicators.When I park my car in front of the garage doors the DRL are quite bright and when I turn on the side lights the garage door shows the lights are dimmer and then obviously very bright with the headlights on.
More of a concern for me is my new car also has automatic lights and today I was driving at lunchtime when it was quite light and no need for any lights at all and 75% of car had their headlights on.It seams the cars with Automatic headlights are too sensitive including mine.I will do thinks manually from now on.
vanordinaire said:
I can't understand why they're not wired up to the rear lights too. If you need lights on then you need them front and rear, if you don't need them on why have them on at all? I see so many people in poor light not bothering to switch their lights on because the DRLs are on, this alone must cause more problems than if they didn't exist.
There's a problem throughout Europe where people pull out into oncoming traffic and the most common excuse they use when a car hits them is "i didn't see them"So they made super bright DRL's to increase the chance of daydreaming drivers of seeing them so they don't pull out in front of them.
The reason so many people drive around with just DRL's on at night (or no lights at all) is because on modern cars the dashboard is always illuminated. On older cars you'd know you were driving around with your lights off because the dashboard would be dark.
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