Rights of Way issue in Scotland
Discussion
OscarIndia said:
Scottish right to roam means people can walk where they like pretty much!
Well that's the theory. But in practice if a farmer builds a wall and a barbed wire fence where there once was a gate it becomes difficult to roam. It's getting the farmer to recognise that he has some responsiblities, as well as some rights.Your local council should have an an access officer - find her or him here
http://www.snh.gov.uk/docs/A1243959.pdf
Also, if it's a popular rambling or hillwalking route, anything like that, get the Ramblers or similar groups onto it.
http://www.snh.gov.uk/docs/A1243959.pdf
Also, if it's a popular rambling or hillwalking route, anything like that, get the Ramblers or similar groups onto it.
rgf100 said:
Your local council should have an an access officer - find her or him here
http://www.snh.gov.uk/docs/A1243959.pdf
Also, if it's a popular rambling or hillwalking route, anything like that, get the Ramblers or similar groups onto it.
Thanks, that PDF has the contact details I need. They'll have an email in their inbox tomorrow morning.http://www.snh.gov.uk/docs/A1243959.pdf
Also, if it's a popular rambling or hillwalking route, anything like that, get the Ramblers or similar groups onto it.
As others say, local access officer. There is a procedure for re-routing RoW but it's arduous. There is also a process by which the authorities can order you to take down a fence if it blocks a RoW on your land. If you don't, they will, with a JCB, and send the landowner the bill.
The authorities have experience of people taking the piss with RoW, it's too bloody easy to block them off after all. You can't do it with a road (try it and see what happens!) so you cant do it with a FP either.
The authorities have experience of people taking the piss with RoW, it's too bloody easy to block them off after all. You can't do it with a road (try it and see what happens!) so you cant do it with a FP either.
rgf100 said:
Your local council should have an an access officer - find her or him here
http://www.snh.gov.uk/docs/A1243959.pdf
Also, if it's a popular rambling or hillwalking route, anything like that, get the Ramblers or similar groups onto it.
Even if it's not a popular route and you have issues that aren't readily resolved definitely involve them. They are unbelievably tenacious.http://www.snh.gov.uk/docs/A1243959.pdf
Also, if it's a popular rambling or hillwalking route, anything like that, get the Ramblers or similar groups onto it.
battered said:
He means a "permissive path" that a landowner has allowed to be used for historic, common practice or convenience reasons. These can be closed off if the landowner changes his mind, though I'm not sure what the process is.
I didn't mean a permissive path.I meant a prescriptive right of way, earned by years of use or an easement that has been bought and paid for.
ATAIK, a farmer is allowed to close off a "right of way" to protect crops, or where there is livestock - e.g. sheep, cattle or horses etc that might be endangered or might endanger the public. But anyone with a bit of sense would walk round the edge of a cropped field, and would strongly avoid being in a field with cows!
grumpyscot said:
ATAIK, a farmer is allowed to close off a "right of way" to protect crops, or where there is livestock - e.g. sheep, cattle or horses etc that might be endangered or might endanger the public. But anyone with a bit of sense would walk round the edge of a cropped field, and would strongly avoid being in a field with cows!
From my non-expert reading of the legislation they can restrict access, but must make reasonable efforts to allow walkers to pass. Which makes a nice grey area. In the particular instance I'm looking at the field appears to be a paddock for some horses.And why are you so concerned about cows? If they don't have small calfs with them and if you don't have a dog with you they are generally very placid animals.
ianrb said:
From my non-expert reading of the legislation they can restrict access, but must make reasonable efforts to allow walkers to pass. Which makes a nice grey area. In the particular instance I'm looking at the field appears to be a paddock for some horses.
And why are you so concerned about cows? If they don't have small calfs with them and if you don't have a dog with you they are generally very placid animals.
In the past 15 years 74 people have been killed by Cattle. Some of those were Farmers.And why are you so concerned about cows? If they don't have small calfs with them and if you don't have a dog with you they are generally very placid animals.
ianrb said:
So about 5 people per year are killed by cattle. Without putting that in context of what the people were doing and how many people cross fields containing cattle it means nothing.
What it means is that there is a proven risk of being killed by cattle when being in the same vicinity as them. Personally I like to minimise the risk of being killed so in the same way I prefer not to walk out into the road without checking traffic, or cut up HGV's, or go to Syria.As a keen walker I see plenty of instances of cattle which certainly aren't placid, dairy cattle in particular. Also farmers often ignore the rules on which cattle are allowed in fields which have ROW's through them.
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