Lots of speeding, only one slight injury
Lots of speeding, only one slight injury
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funkyrobot

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18,789 posts

258 months

Friday 8th January 2016
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http://www.spaldingtoday.co.uk/news/latest-news/sp...

scratchchin

Interesting to note at what amount over the limit the speeds were actually recorded. The 35mph brigade accounts for a decreasing percentage; the 40mph lot even less.

So, does the 40 odd percent mean less than 35mph? Hmmm.

Type R Tom

4,334 posts

179 months

Friday 8th January 2016
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funkyrobot said:
http://www.spaldingtoday.co.uk/news/latest-news/sp...

scratchchin

Interesting to note at what amount over the limit the speeds were actually recorded. The 35mph brigade accounts for a decreasing percentage; the 40mph lot even less.

So, does the 40 odd percent mean less than 35mph? Hmmm.
Care to re-phrase? I'm struggling to understand what you're getting at.

Billsnemesis

817 posts

267 months

Friday 8th January 2016
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I think I get it

A journalist wants a sharp headline so classifies 0.01mph over the speed limit as "speeding"

Johnnytheboy

24,499 posts

216 months

Friday 8th January 2016
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So basically the limit's too low.

Bodged

117 posts

140 months

Friday 8th January 2016
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Johnnytheboy said:
So basically the limit's too low.
Agreed.

Type R Tom

4,334 posts

179 months

Friday 8th January 2016
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At less 12% over the ACPO guidance for prosecution I would call the compliance of the speed limit pretty good along there, keeping in mind it’s a 24h survey so the speeds over 30 could be off peak.

I’d be telling the resident to get lost, low accidents and good compliance to the speed limit. Nothing further to be done.

speedking31

3,951 posts

166 months

Friday 8th January 2016
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45% exceed the 30 limit, only 10% exceed 35 mph. So 55% <30 mph and 35% <35 mph. Seems quite a reasonable result.

R8VXF

6,794 posts

145 months

Friday 8th January 2016
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Type R Tom said:
I’d be telling the resident to get lost, low accidents and good compliance to the speed limit. Nothing further to be done.
To be entirely fair to the resident, she was complaining about people not slowing down for the speed hump. I used to live next to one that was on a main bus route. House used to shake quite a lot when heavy loads went over without braking. I remember one occasion where someone had their suspension collapse because they had not slowed down.

Sounds like there should not be a speed hump there in the first place if there have been no accidents though...

Pete317

1,430 posts

252 months

Friday 8th January 2016
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R8VXF said:
Type R Tom said:
I’d be telling the resident to get lost, low accidents and good compliance to the speed limit. Nothing further to be done.
To be entirely fair to the resident, she was complaining about people not slowing down for the speed hump. I used to live next to one that was on a main bus route. House used to shake quite a lot when heavy loads went over without braking. I remember one occasion where someone had their suspension collapse because they had not slowed down.

Sounds like there should not be a speed hump there in the first place if there have been no accidents though...
Speed is considered to be such a problem that they will even make the roads more dangerous, in order to slow people down, in order to make the roads safer

Type R Tom

4,334 posts

179 months

Friday 8th January 2016
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R8VXF said:
To be entirely fair to the resident, she was complaining about people not slowing down for the speed hump. I used to live next to one that was on a main bus route. House used to shake quite a lot when heavy loads went over without braking. I remember one occasion where someone had their suspension collapse because they had not slowed down.

Sounds like there should not be a speed hump there in the first place if there have been no accidents though...
I'm sure it's annoying but it's extremely unlikely to cause damage to property. Question is whether it's the fault of the hump for being there or the fault of the driver not slowing down enough.

Pete317

1,430 posts

252 months

Friday 8th January 2016
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Type R Tom said:
R8VXF said:
To be entirely fair to the resident, she was complaining about people not slowing down for the speed hump. I used to live next to one that was on a main bus route. House used to shake quite a lot when heavy loads went over without braking. I remember one occasion where someone had their suspension collapse because they had not slowed down.

Sounds like there should not be a speed hump there in the first place if there have been no accidents though...
I'm sure it's annoying but it's extremely unlikely to cause damage to property. Question is whether it's the fault of the hump for being there or the fault of the driver not slowing down enough.
Which one of the two would, if removed, eliminate the problem completely?

R8VXF

6,794 posts

145 months

Friday 8th January 2016
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Type R Tom said:
R8VXF said:
To be entirely fair to the resident, she was complaining about people not slowing down for the speed hump. I used to live next to one that was on a main bus route. House used to shake quite a lot when heavy loads went over without braking. I remember one occasion where someone had their suspension collapse because they had not slowed down.

Sounds like there should not be a speed hump there in the first place if there have been no accidents though...
I'm sure it's annoying but it's extremely unlikely to cause damage to property. Question is whether it's the fault of the hump for being there or the fault of the driver not slowing down enough.
I can well believe it can cause damage the amount the ground used to shake where I lived, and the fault is that of the hump, as if it was not there then there would be no need to slow down to less than the signed limit to navigate a suspension killer.

Type R Tom

4,334 posts

179 months

Friday 8th January 2016
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R8VXF said:
I can well believe it can cause damage the amount the ground used to shake where I lived, and the fault is that of the hump, as if it was not there then there would be no need to slow down to less than the signed limit to navigate a suspension killer.
Well the TRL don't agree with you.

Not driving to the conditions is not the roads layout fault; you could throw that argument at anything on the road. Although clearly you don't mind vehicle breaking the speed limit going past your house, no problem with that you'd save me a load of hassle but in my experience most people don't.

In the case of the news article, you have to ask, is the relatively high compliance to the speed limit a result of traffic calming or not?

Boosted LS1

21,200 posts

290 months

Friday 8th January 2016
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Just because somebody puts a hump in the road doesn't mean you have to slow below the speed limit though. I find on some humps the quicker I go the easier it is. I'm not saying I go over the limit but I'll stick with it, circumstances permitting.

R8VXF

6,794 posts

145 months

Friday 8th January 2016
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Type R Tom said:
R8VXF said:
I can well believe it can cause damage the amount the ground used to shake where I lived, and the fault is that of the hump, as if it was not there then there would be no need to slow down to less than the signed limit to navigate a suspension killer.
Well the TRL don't agree with you.

Not driving to the conditions is not the roads layout fault; you could throw that argument at anything on the road. Although clearly you don't mind vehicle breaking the speed limit going past your house, no problem with that you'd save me a load of hassle but in my experience most people don't.

In the case of the news article, you have to ask, is the relatively high compliance to the speed limit a result of traffic calming or not?
Highlight EXACTLY where I condone going faster than the limit. Seems you have earned a massive fail in reading comprehension today...

anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 8th January 2016
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R8VXF said:
Type R Tom said:
R8VXF said:
I can well believe it can cause damage the amount the ground used to shake where I lived, and the fault is that of the hump, as if it was not there then there would be no need to slow down to less than the signed limit to navigate a suspension killer.
Well the TRL don't agree with you.

Not driving to the conditions is not the roads layout fault; you could throw that argument at anything on the road. Although clearly you don't mind vehicle breaking the speed limit going past your house, no problem with that you'd save me a load of hassle but in my experience most people don't.

In the case of the news article, you have to ask, is the relatively high compliance to the speed limit a result of traffic calming or not?
Highlight EXACTLY where I condone going faster than the limit. Seems you have earned a massive fail in reading comprehension today...
He wasn't much better with his writing IMO. wink

Type R Tom

4,334 posts

179 months

Friday 8th January 2016
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R8VXF said:
Highlight EXACTLY where I condone going faster than the limit. Seems you have earned a massive fail in reading comprehension today...
You haven't but traffic calming is generally put in to because it is needed to slow vehicles, you clearly feel the noise etc. caused by the humps outweighs the requirement to slow traffic, ergo you don’t mind people breaking the limit past your house.

If this isn’t the case please feel free to explain your position on traffic calming vs vehicle speed compliance in residential areas.

As I said, if more people were like you we’d have less traffic calming but in my experience people want more humps outside their houses, not less!

R8VXF

6,794 posts

145 months

Friday 8th January 2016
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REALIST123 said:
He wasn't much better with his writing IMO. wink
rofl

His slalom driving skills also better be on point if he wants to drive quickly past my current house biggrin

Type R Tom

4,334 posts

179 months

Friday 8th January 2016
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REALIST123 said:
He wasn't much better with his writing IMO. wink
Would you care to elaborate?

R8VXF

6,794 posts

145 months

Friday 8th January 2016
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Type R Tom said:
R8VXF said:
Highlight EXACTLY where I condone going faster than the limit. Seems you have earned a massive fail in reading comprehension today...
You haven't but traffic calming is generally put in to because it is needed to slow vehicles, you clearly feel the noise etc. caused by the humps outweighs the requirement to slow traffic, ergo you don’t mind people breaking the limit past your house.

If this isn’t the case please feel free to explain your position on traffic calming vs vehicle speed compliance in residential areas.

As I said, if more people were like you we’d have less traffic calming but in my experience people want more humps outside their houses, not less!
Read this: http://derbygripe.co.uk/humps.htm

Specifically this paragraph for my point about building damage:

damage said:
The impact of vehicles traversing a speed hump sends shock waves through the ground. Depending upon the nature of the soil, the proximity and construction of buildings, the weight of vehicles, and the frequency of traffic, these shock waves may cause structural damage to nearby properties. If you don't believe that, read the official UK regulations stating where humps can be installed - they specifically exclude anywhere within 25m of bridges, subways, or tunnels.
noise said:
Contrary to popular belief, speed humps increase noise levels. Braking may generate noise, especially with larger vehicles, traversing the hump may create noise, especially with goods vehicles and accelerating after the hump generates more noise than a vehicle travelling at a constant speed. Repeatedly traversing humps causes long-term damage to vehicle components, especially the suspension; and humps can cause damage to the bodywork of large vehicles such as buses, and to the underside of cars with low ground clearance.
If you have never lived next to one, your opinion does not count. Simples.