Appliance Life Extinct
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velocefica

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4,727 posts

138 months

Tuesday 12th January 2016
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Relative bought a range cooker from a very well known company which takes it's name from a city on a greek Island and always tells you in it's adverts to 'get ready for...'

Anyway appliance in question has broken, checked the fuse and wiring and all is well. It is well and truly life extinct.

Appliance is 2 years and 9 months old and the owner still has the original receipt.

What is the purchaser entitled to and what is the retailer required under law to offer (if anything).

Some confusing advice between UK and EU interpretation of consumer law.

Edited by velocefica on Tuesday 12th January 17:04

teabelly

164 posts

261 months

Tuesday 12th January 2016
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Do they not come with either a 3 year or 5 year warranty as standard if bought from a UK supplier? I'd contact the shop to begin with and find out which if either applies.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Tuesday 12th January 2016
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velocefica said:
Appliance is 2 years and 9 months old and the owner still has the original receipt.
How long's the warranty?

velocefica said:
What is the purchaser entitled to and what is the retailer required under law to offer (if anything).
"Reasonable expectations". Which is all down to case law.

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

187 months

Tuesday 12th January 2016
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A reasonable person would expect a cooker to last longer than this, assuming it's not been used excessively.

They would be entitled to a repair or a partial refund based on age. The choice of which is up to the retailer.

schmunk

4,399 posts

155 months

Tuesday 12th January 2016
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velocefica said:
a very well known company which takes it's name from a greek Island
??? confused

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_islands_of_G...

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Tuesday 12th January 2016
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schmunk said:
velocefica said:
a very well known company which takes it's name from a greek Island
??? confused

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_islands_of_G...
There are utterly transparent attempts to get around the name'n'shame rule, and there are positively cryptic clues like this one...

marshalla

15,902 posts

231 months

Tuesday 12th January 2016
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Out of curiosity, how extinct is it ?

longblackcoat

5,047 posts

213 months

Tuesday 12th January 2016
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TooMany2cvs said:
schmunk said:
velocefica said:
a very well known company which takes it's name from a greek Island
??? confused

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_islands_of_G...
There are utterly transparent attempts to get around the name'n'shame rule, and there are positively cryptic clues like this one...
I suspect OP is referring to the retailer, rather than the manufacturer. Said company may or may not have a name in common with the largest of the Dodecanese Isles.

velocefica

Original Poster:

4,727 posts

138 months

Tuesday 12th January 2016
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After finally getting through to customer service helpline they have given me the following advice which may or may not be the correct way to deal with this.

Since we still have the all important invoice they have said that we will have to pay for an independent engineers report stating that it is a part that has failed and send it to them.

They will then decide whether or not to repair or replace it. If they decide against then they won't reimburse for the report costs.


TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Tuesday 12th January 2016
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longblackcoat said:
TooMany2cvs said:
schmunk said:
velocefica said:
a very well known company which takes it's name from a greek Island
??? confused

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_islands_of_G...
There are utterly transparent attempts to get around the name'n'shame rule, and there are positively cryptic clues like this one...
I suspect OP is referring to the retailer, rather than the manufacturer. Said company may or may not have a name in common with the largest of the Dodecanese Isles.
I am still none the wiser. Which is probably a good thing as far as the name'n'shame goes...

grimmac

1,412 posts

140 months

Tuesday 12th January 2016
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TooMany2cvs said:
longblackcoat said:
TooMany2cvs said:
schmunk said:
velocefica said:
a very well known company which takes it's name from a greek Island
??? confused

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_islands_of_G...
There are utterly transparent attempts to get around the name'n'shame rule, and there are positively cryptic clues like this one...
I suspect OP is referring to the retailer, rather than the manufacturer. Said company may or may not have a name in common with the largest of the Dodecanese Isles.
I am still none the wiser. Which is probably a good thing as far as the name'n'shame goes...
The fact it's been changed to a city on a Greek island now might help...

Wikipedia cites 144 of these, and I reckon its one 2/3rds of the way through this list.

Hamish Finn

476 posts

138 months

Tuesday 12th January 2016
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Lesbos?

QBee

22,511 posts

174 months

Tuesday 12th January 2016
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Hamish Finn said:
Lesbos?
If you're correct then they won't understand sports cars, geography, reversing into parking spaces, sheds, map-reading or pub crawls with mates. whistle

velocefica

Original Poster:

4,727 posts

138 months

Tuesday 12th January 2016
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Answer - Argos

hidetheelephants

36,164 posts

223 months

Wednesday 13th January 2016
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velocefica said:
Answer - Argos
If you'd mentioned the laminated book of dreams or 'Harrods for chavs' most would have known what you were on about.

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

187 months

Wednesday 13th January 2016
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velocefica said:
After finally getting through to customer service helpline they have given me the following advice which may or may not be the correct way to deal with this.

Since we still have the all important invoice they have said that we will have to pay for an independent engineers report stating that it is a part that has failed and send it to them.

They will then decide whether or not to repair or replace it. If they decide against then they won't reimburse for the report costs.
After 6 months the onus is on the customer to prove there is a fault. Some retailers will accept the responsibility of ascertaining the fault though and some will not. It appears yours will not so you will have to do it yourself.

marshalla

15,902 posts

231 months

Wednesday 13th January 2016
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PurpleMoonlight said:
After 6 months the onus is on the customer to prove there is a fault.
To prove the fault was present at the time of purchase.



TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Wednesday 13th January 2016
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velocefica said:
Answer - Argos
NAME AND SHAME!

Fastpedeller

4,367 posts

176 months

Wednesday 13th January 2016
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velocefica said:
Answer - Argos
Ahh- my guess was AEG (Aegean sea, get it) shows my GCE grade c Geography didn't work!

teabelly

164 posts

261 months

Wednesday 13th January 2016
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I was thinking Aga so way off...

Find a cooker repairer and they may be able to tell you what has failed and do the report and quote for the repair. If they see it a lot then it suggests it is a manufacturing fault.

How much did the cooker cost originally? The cheaper it was the less time you expect it to last.