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VISE

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196 posts

133 months

Saturday 16th January 2016
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Last night my brother's mate drove in to him on a roundabout, admitted to the police he was in the outside lane and car slid out (corsa VXR, of course it slid out lol...) Anyway, police didn't put it on the incident, so brother's waiting to hear back from them looking in to it.

Regardless, he works for my dad and so does the boy, that's how they're friends. Admitted to the police he was in the outside lane, brother's damage is to passenger side wishbone/wheel/arch etc, he said to my brother he wants to pay for it outside of insurance. Got a quote this morning £3k, and he's suddenly changed his mind and called up insurance blaming brother saying he was in the outside lane and hit the corsa. If that's the case, how's the damage to the left hand wheel and how did my brother's car end up on the kerb closest to the left hand side? He has damage to the right hand side too from where he was hit slightly. How would my brother have damage on the right hand side if he was closest to the roundabout?

That being said, they're obviously mates and now he's trying to ask my brother to take it knock for knock and admitted over text he was in the outside lane and is now asking him to agree knock for knock.

Could that be reported, or any real way to go about this? Unfortunately no cameras and no witnesses since it was 3AM. But nevertheless hoping the police get back to him, although they said it's not up to them to take sides.

Magic919

14,560 posts

231 months

Saturday 16th January 2016
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Knock for knock hasn't existed for over twenty years now.

There might be some confusion about which lane is the outside lane on a roundabout.

You can only rely on the nature of the damage without witnesses. It might be clear enough what could have happened and what could not.

He makes a claim and lets the Insurers do their stuff. Might end up 50-50.

anonymous-user

84 months

Saturday 16th January 2016
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so basically racing each other and crash.

kowalski655

15,232 posts

173 months

Saturday 16th January 2016
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Very likely smile
But the location of the damage to the respective cars should show who was on the outside,and hopefully the Police recorded his admission,and the location of the cars in a report.Also the text message-the insurers need to see that(and maybe the Police for PTCOJ!)

Petrus1983

11,207 posts

192 months

Saturday 16th January 2016
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Outside lane and slid out?? That means he'd have avoided your brother on the inside lane, especially in a front wheel car.

Anyway, since your brother would have known he was racing perhaps it's best to avoid involving the police too much huh wink


VISE

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196 posts

133 months

Saturday 16th January 2016
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No racing as far as I know, lots of grit on the road and very icy last night. But like said, I wasn't there! Just going by what they both told me.

VISE

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196 posts

133 months

Saturday 16th January 2016
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kowalski655 said:
Very likely smile
But the location of the damage to the respective cars should show who was on the outside,and hopefully the Police recorded his admission,and the location of the cars in a report.Also the text message-the insurers need to see that(and maybe the Police for PTCOJ!)
Thank you, so the text messages can be used?
Insurers have told my brother he's called up twice now to change his account of events lol, don't think he realises they get recorded.

QuickQuack

2,837 posts

131 months

Saturday 16th January 2016
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VISE said:
Thank you, so the text messages can be used?
Insurers have told my brother he's called up twice now to change his account of events lol, don't think he realises they get recorded.
Yes they can be used, as can the recordings of the insurance company. Your brother should stick to his account, use the evidence to prove his mate was in the wrong, and your dad should probably sack the lying git.

VISE

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196 posts

133 months

Saturday 16th January 2016
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QuickQuack said:
Yes they can be used, as can the recordings of the insurance company. Your brother should stick to his account, use the evidence to prove his mate was in the wrong, and your dad should probably sack the lying git.
Assuming he will do, merely the fact that he's paid on a work basis with no contract, so down the drain that goes.
Pretty crazy that he was struggling for a job and my brother helped him out when my dad was a sure no on hiring anyone. What a way to throw it in your face!

MrBarry123

6,108 posts

151 months

Saturday 16th January 2016
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The Spruce goose said:
so basically racing each other and crash.
hehe

WD39

20,083 posts

146 months

Saturday 16th January 2016
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There might be some confusion about which lane is the outside lane on a roundabout.


?? Surely the outside lane is the one on the outside, next to the centre of said roundabout.

SpeckledJim

34,335 posts

283 months

Saturday 16th January 2016
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WD39 said:


There might be some confusion about which lane is the outside lane on a roundabout.


?? Surely the outside lane is the one on the outside, next to the centre of said roundabout.
In the same way an orange has its pips on the outside.

I know you're right. But it's weird.

anonymous-user

84 months

Saturday 16th January 2016
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I dont understand what going 50/50 gains for your brothers mate? They both end up with a fault accident on their record instead of just one?

VISE

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196 posts

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Saturday 16th January 2016
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CaptainMorgan said:
I dont understand what going 50/50 gains for your brothers mate? They both end up with a fault accident on their record instead of just one?
You and me both, I think in a sense, he knows he's lost by admitting to the policeman. But I think he'd rather go 50/50 before it comes to it, therefore working in his favour.

Roo

11,504 posts

237 months

Saturday 16th January 2016
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If it goes through insurance he won't have any say in it. He'll end up with a claim against him anyway.

killsta

1,845 posts

258 months

Sunday 17th January 2016
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If it's a damage only RTC then the police most likely won't be getting involved again unless any offences have occurred. They don't need to find out who caused it, it's for the insurance companies to sort out.

I'm going to guess this is going 50/50.

MrFappyFappy

68 posts

132 months

Sunday 17th January 2016
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VISE said:
Last night my brother's mate drove in to him on a roundabout, admitted to the police he was in the outside lane and car slid out (corsa VXR, of course it slid out lol...) Anyway, police didn't put it on the incident, so brother's waiting to hear back from them looking in to it.

Regardless, he works for my dad and so does the boy, that's how they're friends. Admitted to the police he was in the outside lane, brother's damage is to passenger side wishbone/wheel/arch etc, he said to my brother he wants to pay for it outside of insurance. Got a quote this morning £3k, and he's suddenly changed his mind and called up insurance blaming brother saying he was in the outside lane and hit the corsa. If that's the case, how's the damage to the left hand wheel and how did my brother's car end up on the kerb closest to the left hand side? He has damage to the right hand side too from where he was hit slightly. How would my brother have damage on the right hand side if he was closest to the roundabout?

That being said, they're obviously mates and now he's trying to ask my brother to take it knock for knock and admitted over text he was in the outside lane and is now asking him to agree knock for knock.

Could that be reported, or any real way to go about this? Unfortunately no cameras and no witnesses since it was 3AM. But nevertheless hoping the police get back to him, although they said it's not up to them to take sides.
Chavtastic. biggrin