can a school prevent a 8 year old using the toilet
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Don't know, perhaps the school have had issues with kids wanting to go to the toilet and generally buggering about, but what I do know is; as the parent I would have been down there like a shot and giving someone hell.
He should go to the Daily Mail; sad face photo holding up his sodden pants!
He should go to the Daily Mail; sad face photo holding up his sodden pants!
I was prevented going to to the toilet many times during my school life. It's part of growing up. It shouldn't lead to wetting yourself but I don't think the school are doing anything wrong telling pupils to go to the toilet in break times. Maybe the teacher just need to assess the urgency a bit better.
I wouldn't bother going down the legal route if I were you, you will be wasting your time. Maybe just a complaint to the school will suffice and/or a word with your nephew to schedule his toilet breaks better.
I wouldn't bother going down the legal route if I were you, you will be wasting your time. Maybe just a complaint to the school will suffice and/or a word with your nephew to schedule his toilet breaks better.
That is very wrong and I would be having stern words with the head - no need to cause the poor child such embarrassment. The only mitigation might be previous behavior - does he have a history of asking to go every 10 minutes for no reason ?
Worth checking exactly why he wasnt allowed to go out - If there is no good reason then be firm and explain that this wont be happening again.
Worth checking exactly why he wasnt allowed to go out - If there is no good reason then be firm and explain that this wont be happening again.
On paper it sounds very harsh, but part of growing up is learning to take care of these requirements around your commitments.
i.e - the children get enough break time so they should learn to answer a call of nature then, rather than during lesson time.
It may seem a little cold, but I'd gently remind the boy that this is why he should go in between classes and use the experience as lesson for next time.
i.e - the children get enough break time so they should learn to answer a call of nature then, rather than during lesson time.
It may seem a little cold, but I'd gently remind the boy that this is why he should go in between classes and use the experience as lesson for next time.
Dodsy said:
That is very wrong and I would be having stern words with the head - no need to cause the poor child such embarrassment. The only mitigation might be previous behavior - does he have a history of asking to go every 10 minutes for no reason ?
Worth checking exactly why he wasnt allowed to go out - If there is no good reason then be firm and explain that this wont be happening again.
If he needs a pee every 10 minutes he needs a blood sugar test.Worth checking exactly why he wasnt allowed to go out - If there is no good reason then be firm and explain that this wont be happening again.
i'm going the other way.
no offence, but sounds like one of those really annoyingly crap parents that will always take their childs side over that of a teacher.
What's the bet the child was being a little ....
An 8 year old child is more than capable of holding it in until the end of a lesson, remembering lessons aren't all that long any more.
no offence, but sounds like one of those really annoyingly crap parents that will always take their childs side over that of a teacher.
What's the bet the child was being a little ....
An 8 year old child is more than capable of holding it in until the end of a lesson, remembering lessons aren't all that long any more.
Teach the kid to get up and just go to the toilet if they can't hold it in, and that you will deal with the consequences if anything happens as a result. The kid is 8, not 14, so cut him some slack. If the teacher is that pissy, he could always say 'only if it's urgent' so that the child can decide if it's urgent, or just something he can delay. I'd go nuts if a teacher does that too my little girl when she is born and goes off to school.
daytona355 said:
Teach the kid to get up and just go to the toilet if they can't hold it in, and that you will deal with the consequences if anything happens as a result. The kid is 8, not 14, so cut him some slack. If the teacher is that pissy, he could always say 'only if it's urgent' so that the child can decide if it's urgent, or just something he can delay. I'd go nuts if a teacher does that too my little girl when she is born and goes off to school.
I'm guessing you've not been in a school for a while? The rule is there to stop little Jonny from getting up and just wandering around the school for a bit. Teachers don't do it to be arses, they do it to add structure to quite often unstructured lives.Dodsy said:
That is very wrong and I would be having stern words with the head - no need to cause the poor child such embarrassment. The only mitigation might be previous behavior - does he have a history of asking to go every 10 minutes for no reason ?
Worth checking exactly why he wasnt allowed to go out - If there is no good reason then be firm and explain that this wont be happening again.
100% this, If the child has a habit of "needing the toilet" then I would be having words with him and telling him to buck his idea's up.Worth checking exactly why he wasnt allowed to go out - If there is no good reason then be firm and explain that this wont be happening again.
If this was a one off and the Teacher was just being an arse then I would be going to the Head/Governors/PTA.
TheTrash said:
I'm guessing you've not been in a school for a while? The rule is there to stop little Jonny from getting up and just wandering around the school for a bit. Teachers don't do it to be arses, they do it to add structure to quite often unstructured lives.
Yes, but the kid that was asking to go so that they get a little wander around the school does not then go on to wet themselves. It could be the kid is medically normal and just didn't go for a wee and ended up wetting himself. That's entirely excusable. Kids are not to be treated in the same way as adults. Yes they need to learn but their mistakes (ie forgetting to go during the break) are not to reprimanded in the same way as an older kid or adult. Also, there could be some medical reason for needing to go.
MrJuice said:
Yes, but the kid that was asking to go so that they get a little wander around the school does not then go on to wet themselves. It could be the kid is medically normal and just didn't go for a wee and ended up wetting himself. That's entirely excusable. Kids are not to be treated in the same way as adults. Yes they need to learn but their mistakes (ie forgetting to go during the break) are not to reprimanded in the same way as an older kid or adult.
Also, there could be some medical reason for needing to go.
If there was a medical reason the teacher would have let them go, they can't apply rules for some children and not others. If the child were desperate they should have just gone to the toilet. Also, there could be some medical reason for needing to go.
TheTrash said:
MrJuice said:
No, they cannot refuse. That teacher behaved very irresponsibly and will be dealt with by the head, no doubt
Yes, they can. Kid needs to learn to MTFUafter asking the nice care assistant to help you to the gary.
TheTrash said:
If there was a medical reason the teacher would have let them go, they can't apply rules for some children and not others. If the child were desperate they should have just gone to the toilet.
The teacher may not have been aware of any medical reason. Medical problems start somewhere and this may have been the first presentation of enuresis. This all assumes the boy was not being silly and doesn't have a history of being silly.
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