Yet another PCN query. (Sorry)
Yet another PCN query. (Sorry)
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pinchmeimdreamin

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10,902 posts

248 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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Quick version to stop people getting too bored.

A friend at work retired recently and a few of us went into town to have a few drinks. When SWMBO came to pick me up I had just got a drink in so she was sat in the car park for 17 mins waiting for me to finish my drink and say my goodbyes.

The PCN states 17 mins, And the pictures clearly show the cars lights are on.
PCN from Premier Park.
Car park owned by council according to google (although it is named after the pub).

Is it worth appealing or Is it classed as parking even though she was actually sat waiting for me to stumble out the pub ?


Hamish Finn

476 posts

138 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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pinchmeimdreamin said:
Is it classed as parking even though she was actually sat waiting for me to stumble out the pub ?
Was she parked? That will tell you if it's classed as parking.


pinchmeimdreamin

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10,902 posts

248 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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Hamish Finn said:
Was she parked? That will tell you if it's classed as parking.
She was sat in the car with the engine running and the lights on texting me to hurry up and get out the pub.

is that parked or waiting ?

Countdown

49,519 posts

226 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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Does the car park allow people to wait in there for free?

To be honest if your car is IN the car Im pretty sure they are within their rights to charge you. Some of them have a 5 minute / 10 minute leeway where you can leave without paying but, if there's no leeway, you could be continuously driving in circles and still be required to pay for parking.

pinchmeimdreamin

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Thursday 10th March 2016
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Countdown said:
Does the car park allow people to wait in there for free?

To be honest if your car is IN the car Im pretty sure they are within their rights to charge you. Some of them have a 5 minute / 10 minute leeway where you can leave without paying but, if there's no leeway, you could be continuously driving in circles and still be required to pay for parking.
Ok thanks for that, I will try cheeky challenge then, if it fails I still get the £60 rate so no loss.
beer

Mandat

4,643 posts

268 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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pinchmeimdreamin said:
Hamish Finn said:
Was she parked? That will tell you if it's classed as parking.
She was sat in the car with the engine running and the lights on texting me to hurry up and get out the pub.

is that parked or waiting ?
On the other hand, if she wasn't parked, is she then guilty of using a handheld mobile behind the wheel? whistle

pinchmeimdreamin

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10,902 posts

248 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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Mandat said:
On the other hand, if she wasn't parked, is she then guilty of using a handheld mobile behind the wheel? whistle
You try telling her that if you dare laugh

Hamish Finn

476 posts

138 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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pinchmeimdreamin said:
Mandat said:
On the other hand, if she wasn't parked, is she then guilty of using a handheld mobile behind the wheel? whistle
You try telling her that if you dare laugh
You know you're bang-to-rights here, I wouldn't keep digging...

pinchmeimdreamin

Original Poster:

10,902 posts

248 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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Hamish Finn said:
pinchmeimdreamin said:
Mandat said:
On the other hand, if she wasn't parked, is she then guilty of using a handheld mobile behind the wheel? whistle
You try telling her that if you dare laugh
You know you're bang-to-rights here, I wouldn't keep digging...
Who is digging ?
I've said I will try a cheeky challenge that's all

Hamish Finn

476 posts

138 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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pinchmeimdreamin said:
Who is digging ?
I've said I will try a cheeky challenge that's all
As is your right, of course! Wouldn't be PH without these "how can I get out of this, pullease!" posts.

Good luck, in any event.


pinchmeimdreamin

Original Poster:

10,902 posts

248 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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Hamish Finn said:
pinchmeimdreamin said:
Who is digging ?
I've said I will try a cheeky challenge that's all
As is your right, of course! Wouldn't be PH without these "how can I get out of this, pullease!" posts.

Good luck, in any event.
If that's the way you see it then ok, I think it's a bit OTT as she was picking me up not parking, so I will ask the question if they disagree I will pay .

Hamish Finn

476 posts

138 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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pinchmeimdreamin said:
If that's the way you see it then ok, I think it's a bit OTT as she was picking me up not parking, so I will ask the question if they disagree I will pay .
What do you think "parking" means then? Stopping in a car park? For 17 minutes. Is that not "parking"?


pinchmeimdreamin

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10,902 posts

248 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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Hamish Finn said:
pinchmeimdreamin said:
If that's the way you see it then ok, I think it's a bit OTT as she was picking me up not parking, so I will ask the question if they disagree I will pay .
What do you think "parking" means then? Stopping in a car park? For 17 minutes. Is that not "parking"?
I thought parking meant leaving a car in a parking space whilst you went somewhere, however I now know waiting in a car park outside a pub for someone to come out is also so. God knows how much taxi drivers pay in fines.

S11Steve

6,389 posts

214 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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If the ticket is from Premier Park, then it's not a council ticket...
If it was a council ticket, you'd only be paying £35 for early acceptance.

Your choice, just worth knowing that Premier Park regularly lose at POPLA for a myriad of non-compliance issues, if they even respond to the appeal. I've won a couple against them because they didn't provide an evidence pack to POPLA

Oh, and they don't fare well in court either - not won a single case where the defendant has turned up I believe.