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rico said:
They stay on your license for four years, but are only 'valid' for three years... in that if you get another 3 points after three years, you will have 3 points on your license, not 6. If you get another 3 points before the three year date... you'll have 6 
If that makes sense...
What's the point of having them on your licence then? So that if you get pulled it can be seen that you have "prior"? Also, don't forget that insurance ask if you have convictions in the last 5 years! So that's inflated premiums for an extra 2 years. Don't know why they don't go the whole hog and ask "any motoring convictions ever?"
llamekcuf said:
Fight it... dont just take it from them www.pepipoo.com
Dude I was doing 54 in a 40 with photo's just how long do you think that fight would last? I'm thinking all of a second.
nicecupoftea said:
What's the point of having them on your licence then? So that if you get pulled it can be seen that you have "prior"? Also, don't forget that insurance ask if you have convictions in the last 5 years! So that's inflated premiums for an extra 2 years. Don't know why they don't go the whole hog and ask "any motoring convictions ever?"
For many offences the date of the offence is what counts, not conviction. However points on a licence could expire (and be removed) between the date of the offence and when it comes to court so they stay on an extra year.
Gareth
victormeldrew said:
There ar three things in life that are inevitable and unavoidable. Death, taxes, and speeding points.
Never a truer word said!
The slowest most careful driver (in their 70's now) I know has got points.
As punishment is inevitable it's worth considering that old saying:
'if you're going to do the time, make sure you've done the crime!'
raged_out said:
Fight it... dont just take it from them <a href="http://www.pepipoo.com">www.pepipoo.com</a>
Dude I was doing 54 in a 40 with photo's just how long do you think that fight would last? I'm thinking all of a second.
A lot longer actually, and chances are you'd win it as well. Trust in pepipoo, their method in this case hasn't failed yet.
llamekcuf said:
Fight it... dont just take it from them www.pepipoo.com
Good idea....bigger fine/court costs...potentially more points.....
It's everyone's duty to fight camera convictions.
It keeps the cash away from the greedy partnerships. (They only get the cash from fixed penalties)
It's far better to find your way with the first three pointer than it is to be desperately fighting the one that'll get you banned.
You might win.
The cost of one speeding conviction is usually far far more than £60. One insurance industry estimate was £1,100 on average over 5 years.
If they're going to nick you for a technical offence, then the least you can do is ensure that they got their technicalities right - they frequently don't.
If everyone asks for their day in court the system will collapse in weeks.
Some of the Pepipoo methods and advice are excellent.
See what Trevor Reason had to say:
www.safespeed.org.uk/unite.html
3.1 million partnership NIPs resulted in 1.89 million fixed penalties paid in 2003/4 according to official figures.
You know it makes sense.
It keeps the cash away from the greedy partnerships. (They only get the cash from fixed penalties)
It's far better to find your way with the first three pointer than it is to be desperately fighting the one that'll get you banned.
You might win.
The cost of one speeding conviction is usually far far more than £60. One insurance industry estimate was £1,100 on average over 5 years.
If they're going to nick you for a technical offence, then the least you can do is ensure that they got their technicalities right - they frequently don't.
If everyone asks for their day in court the system will collapse in weeks.
Some of the Pepipoo methods and advice are excellent.
See what Trevor Reason had to say:
www.safespeed.org.uk/unite.html
3.1 million partnership NIPs resulted in 1.89 million fixed penalties paid in 2003/4 according to official figures.
You know it makes sense.
safespeed said:
It's everyone's duty to fight camera convictions.
It keeps the cash away from the greedy partnerships. (They only get the cash from fixed penalties)
It's far better to find your way with the first three pointer than it is to be desperately fighting the one that'll get you banned.
You might win.
The cost of one speeding conviction is usually far far more than £60. One insurance industry estimate was £1,100 on average over 5 years.
If they're going to nick you for a technical offence, then the least you can do is ensure that they got their technicalities right - they frequently don't.
If everyone asks for their day in court the system will collapse in weeks.
Some of the Pepipoo methods and advice are excellent.
See what Trevor Reason had to say:
www.safespeed.org.uk/unite.html
3.1 million partnership NIPs resulted in 1.89 million fixed penalties paid in 2003/4 according to official figures.
You know it makes sense.
Its much easier to watch for the limit you are entering and then stick to a speed which is at or slightly below it.
Saves all the heartache safespeed
gone said:
It's everyone's duty to fight camera convictions.
Its much easier to watch for the limit you are entering and then stick to a speed which is at or slightly below it.
Saves all the heartache safespeed
Rubbish! It's a deadly mistake and it's killing us.
The mistake isn't made by drivers, however, it's the authority's mistake.
Clearly road safety does not depend on sticking to speed limits because official figures tell us that the majority are exceeding most limits at sample sites. Yet, by the skin of our teeth, and despite over a decade of bad policy, we still have the safest roads in the world.
gone said:The limits you refer to are usually set below natural driving levels, and some are being adjusted even lower. Couple this with hidden scameras and you are almost assured points.
Its much easier to watch for the limit you are entering and then stick to a speed which is at or slightly below it.
Saves all the heartache safespeed
Case in point; I would most definitely fall asleep if I drove at a constant 68 on a motorway for any length of time, especially when in the dark.
safespeed said:
safespeed said:
It's everyone's duty to fight camera convictions.
Its much easier to watch for the limit you are entering and then stick to a speed which is at or slightly below it.
Saves all the heartache safespeed
Rubbish! It's a deadly mistake and it's killing us.
The mistake isn't made by drivers, however, it's the authority's mistake.
Clearly road safety does not depend on sticking to speed limits because official figures tell us that the majority are exceeding most limits at sample sites. Yet, by the skin of our teeth, and despite over a decade of bad policy, we still have the safest roads in the world.
3 million tickets ....
lives saved 0
Nuff said.
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