I got caught speeding and im a plonker...78 in a 50
I got caught speeding and im a plonker...78 in a 50
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iamAlegend

Original Poster:

216 posts

171 months

Tuesday 31st May 2016
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Hi guys, i've been very stupid frown

I'm not trying to get out of it, I admitted to the officer immediately. I'm just curious as to what to expect in the way of punishment.
I was travelling home from an interview (just finished university) in Hastings and found myself northbound on the A20 Sidcup bypass at around 20:30 on a weekday. Somehow, I failed to notice the speed limit change. What I did somehow notice what the police bike parked on the slip road of the A222.

He pulled me over not far into the residential area. At that point the road is three lanes and represents a motorway.
The officer said it's most likely to result in a court appearance and possible ban!

I have (*had) a clean licence and, like most people, have NEVER been in trouble for anything with the law for anything.

What do people think i'm in for?
(Im from ooop north so the area is by no means familiar)

(link showing where the bike was)

https://goo.gl/maps/xossE4TxMtj

Dibble

13,282 posts

270 months

Tuesday 31st May 2016
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I can't help with the possible/likely penalty, hopefully agtlaw will post the sentencing guidelines table, which may give an indication.

I'm not going to lecture you about speeding (some here will). We've all done it, all do it, sometimes it's inappropriate and sometimes it's dangerous as well. If you're worried, speak to a motoring solicitor and avoid idiots giving advice on the Internet. Unfortunately, speaking to a decent solicitor may cost a decent chunk of cash. You do get what you pay for.

Esceptico

8,897 posts

139 months

Tuesday 31st May 2016
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OP - there was a post just a few days ago in this section with the current and future sentencing guidelines.

anonymous-user

84 months

Tuesday 31st May 2016
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Dibble said:
I can't help with the possible/likely penalty, hopefully agtlaw will post the sentencing guidelines table, which may give an indication.

I'm not going to lecture you about speeding (some here will). We've all done it, all do it, sometimes it's inappropriate and sometimes it's dangerous as well. If you're worried, speak to a motoring solicitor and avoid idiots giving advice on the Internet. Unfortunately, speaking to a decent solicitor may cost a decent chunk of cash. You do get what you pay for.
Very good advice. Can you afford to take a ban? If not, it's at least worth spending some money to try and defend it.

iamAlegend

Original Poster:

216 posts

171 months

Tuesday 31st May 2016
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Thank you for the advice, from those guidelines it looks like I could well be facing a ban if i'm unlucky or 6 points if I am!
I'm probably able to take the hit from a ban if it's less than a month, however while job hunting, having a car is a great advantage. I definitely can't afford a lawyer unless they head for a year ban or prison smash
I still can't believe it happened to be honest, there's no way i'd do that knowingly, so annoyed with myself!

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Wednesday 1st June 2016
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iamAlegend said:
I still can't believe it happened to be honest, there's no way i'd do that knowingly
Not sure that's a great defence...

78 in a 50 is just into court territory.


Is it less than two years since your first test pass? If so, then you're almost certainly going back to L-plates.
Otherwise, it might be a ban, it might be a bking and serious points. I'll leave it to others to suggest whether suiting-up or a contrite letter is more likely to help you. Look on the bright side, though - you were coming back from an interview, so the suit must be clean and the shoes shiny...

iamAlegend

Original Poster:

216 posts

171 months

Wednesday 1st June 2016
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Haha, probably not a great defence, no, but the truth! tongue out

I've been passed 7 years so shouldn't get my licence revoked. I was wearing my suit when he pulled me over but it didn't win him over...

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Wednesday 1st June 2016
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iamAlegend said:
Haha, probably not a great defence, no, but the truth! tongue out
Would points for "due care and attention" sit better on your licence? Really...?

iamAlegend said:
I was wearing my suit when he pulled me over but it didn't win him over...
No, but it might get the magistrate a little more on your side.

anonymous-user

84 months

Wednesday 1st June 2016
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Just thank your lucky stars you didn't get caught in Switzerland. I got a CHF1550 fine and a 6 month ban for precisely the same offence.

agtlaw

7,413 posts

236 months

Wednesday 1st June 2016
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Assuming you don't want to investigate a technical defence then if offered a fixed penalty, pay it. Deal with this case using "Signed For" post or if given the option then online.

If you prefer points then do not attend the first hearing in person.

If you don't mind a short ban then attend the first hearing.

The Yorkshire guideline for 78/50 is a 7 day ban. The national guideline is on the link posted above.

Lurking Lawyer

4,535 posts

255 months

Wednesday 1st June 2016
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Helpful informed practical advice, as ever, from agtlaw bowjudge

TwigtheWonderkid

49,158 posts

180 months

Wednesday 1st June 2016
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iamAlegend said:
Haha, probably not a great defence, no, but the truth! tongue out
It's a better defence than "I shot the sheriff, but I didn't shoot the deputy".

Terminator X

20,802 posts

234 months

Wednesday 1st June 2016
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Unlikely to get a ban if <30mph over the limit. Be prepared to grovel though!

TX.

Edit - I bow to AGT Law though of course.

ORD

18,203 posts

157 months

Wednesday 1st June 2016
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agtlaw said:
Assuming you don't want to investigate a technical defence then if offered a fixed penalty, pay it. Deal with this case using "Signed For" post or if given the option then online.

If you prefer points then do not attend the first hearing in person.

If you don't mind a short ban then attend the first hearing.

The Yorkshire guideline for 78/50 is a 7 day ban. The national guideline is on the link posted above.
Why would you not take the 7 day ban instead of 6 points?

AH33

2,066 posts

165 months

Wednesday 1st June 2016
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Pretending you are ashamed of yourself has worked twice for me already, 138 in a 70 and 105, also in a 70.

138 was 9 points (and license revocation under new drivers act) but I was only 20 so could retake my test and get back on the road asap. It could have been a LONG ban. 105 in a 70 got me a 21 day ban and £150 fine.

78 in a 50? depending on circumstances I think you'll get away with 3 points and a fine. Just let a single tear run down your face and tell them you'll never* do it again.

Good luck! smile

TwigtheWonderkid

49,158 posts

180 months

Wednesday 1st June 2016
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ORD said:
Why would you not take the 7 day ban instead of 6 points?
Most insurers will quote you with 6 points, some with quite a small loading. Loads of insurers will not insure you at all if you've been disqualified within the last 5 years, or if they will, often with a much larger loading.

pim

2,346 posts

154 months

Thursday 2nd June 2016
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I got caught speeding four times over about fourty years of driving.90 mph on the motorway and once in Linonshire in a 30 zone after midnight.

You are not the only plonker.Coppers who stopped me on the motorway never a warning three points and a fine.One copper had a lot off because I slowed down after i noticed them in the inside lane.They followed me for a bit maybe hoping for a bit if a chase.

Strange people coppers.

ORD

18,203 posts

157 months

Thursday 2nd June 2016
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
ORD said:
Why would you not take the 7 day ban instead of 6 points?
Most insurers will quote you with 6 points, some with quite a small loading. Loads of insurers will not insure you at all if you've been disqualified within the last 5 years, or if they will, often with a much larger loading.
I expected that was the explanation. Thanks.

iamAlegend

Original Poster:

216 posts

171 months

Thursday 2nd June 2016
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agtlaw said:
Assuming you don't want to investigate a technical defence then if offered a fixed penalty, pay it. Deal with this case using "Signed For" post or if given the option then online.

If you prefer points then do not attend the first hearing in person.

If you don't mind a short ban then attend the first hearing.

The Yorkshire guideline for 78/50 is a 7 day ban. The national guideline is on the link posted above.
Thank you for your advice.

Just out of interest, he said the whole 'anything you do say may be given in evidence' and asked me if i had anything to say, i said 'not really' (my usual response for no) and he put 'not really' in the box, is this a bad thing?