What's he likely to get?
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So a close friend/family member was an utter fool last night. I left his family home quite late, he was out drinking at a friend's house, and I noticed that either his car had been stolen or he'd been back for it. Turns out it was the latter. He was caught three times over the limit. Not sure on any of the circumstances but there's a good chance there was six of them in his small hatch.
He's been driving lessons than a year and has been locked up over night a couple of times before, but not any other driving offences.
Not going to be giving him a hard time about it, because it's not my place and he'll be getting that off everyone else. But just to settle my curiosity, what's he likely to be facing in terms of points/fines/bans?
He's been driving lessons than a year and has been locked up over night a couple of times before, but not any other driving offences.
Not going to be giving him a hard time about it, because it's not my place and he'll be getting that off everyone else. But just to settle my curiosity, what's he likely to be facing in terms of points/fines/bans?
Found a thread that answers my query pretty much.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=119...
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=119...
PorkInsider said:
I'm thinking the same.
When someone's been 'locked up a couple of times' before, it paints a particular picture...
Absolutely agree. But by locked up I mean a night in the cells for being pissed up. Generally he's a decent guy but obviously my previous description isn't flattering. I mentioned it because i thought it may have a bearing on any decisions. His problem is he's very gullible. When someone's been 'locked up a couple of times' before, it paints a particular picture...
Like I said, I was just curious as to what he might get and I've got my answer. No need for any opinions on anything else.
Sentence largely depends on the evidential reading. If 1st offence and 3x the limit then a community order and around a 2yr ban would be the usual sentence.
https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/item...
https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/item...
horsemeatscandal said:
Absolutely agree. But by locked up I mean a night in the cells for being pissed up. Generally he's a decent guy but obviously my previous description isn't flattering. I mentioned it because i thought it may have a bearing on any decisions. His problem is he's very gullible.
Like I said, I was just curious as to what he might get and I've got my answer. No need for any opinions on anything else.
I think he needs to address the booze issue then. Seems like this could be the source of his problems.Like I said, I was just curious as to what he might get and I've got my answer. No need for any opinions on anything else.
horsemeatscandal said:
Absolutely agree. But by locked up I mean a night in the cells for being pissed up. Generally he's a decent guy but obviously my previous description isn't flattering. I mentioned it because i thought it may have a bearing on any decisions. His problem is he's very gullible.
Like I said, I was just curious as to what he might get and I've got my answer. No need for any opinions on anything else.
I do wonder if I've just led a sheltered life in that I've never encountered the Police outside of me needing to report something to them.Like I said, I was just curious as to what he might get and I've got my answer. No need for any opinions on anything else.
I'm going off at a tangent but I always struggle a bit with how people slip into conversation that he's been locked up overnight a couple of times as if it's the norm and/or no big deal
agtlaw said:
Sentence largely depends on the evidential reading. If 1st offence and 3x the limit then a community order and around a 2yr ban would be the usual sentence.
https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/item...
Cheers. That is pretty much what I've read elsewhere online. Just been looking at potential insurance prices, not pretty. Good wakeup call though.https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/item...
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hstewie said:
hstewie said: I do wonder if I've just led a sheltered life in that I've never encountered the Police outside of me needing to report something to them.
I'm going off at a tangent but I always struggle a bit with how people slip into conversation that he's been locked up overnight a couple of times as if it's the norm and/or no big deal
We'll no, it's not normal. I was just making it clear that he hadn't been jailed for dealing class A drugs or robbing old ladies. I'm going off at a tangent but I always struggle a bit with how people slip into conversation that he's been locked up overnight a couple of times as if it's the norm and/or no big deal
Drink and gullibility are the issues.
I chased and stopped a hit and run DD, She blew 118 on the evidential test and was handed the following
The result from her court appearance was:
A community order for 12 months
80 hours unpaid work
Disqualified from driving for 23 months
£200 fine
£395 in costs.
and police seized her car too !
She was a upstanding character up to that point with no priors of any offences.
EDITTED as I had conviction details slightly wrong. just found email from copper.
The result from her court appearance was:
A community order for 12 months
80 hours unpaid work
Disqualified from driving for 23 months
£200 fine
£395 in costs.
and police seized her car too !
She was a upstanding character up to that point with no priors of any offences.
EDITTED as I had conviction details slightly wrong. just found email from copper.
Edited by fastbikes76 on Monday 6th June 06:56
Also, as he blew more than 2.5 times the limit, he will have to pass a DVLA medical before being allowed his licence back. He will be classed as a " High risk offender"
The main part is blood being taken in which they test the CDT levels. This is a chemical the liver produces after alcohol is consumed. It also registers weeks after consumption hence they do this test to weed out the real problem drinkers who wouldn't be able to abstain for any length of time.
A persistent heavy drinker would more than likely fail the test.
In fact the general thought is to abstain completely for at least 8 weeks before hand to be on the safe side.
The high risk offender tag was introduced in june 2013.
It applies to anyone who; Blew more than 2.5 times the limit ( or blood eqiv)
Refuse a test
or second DD within 10 years.
The main part is blood being taken in which they test the CDT levels. This is a chemical the liver produces after alcohol is consumed. It also registers weeks after consumption hence they do this test to weed out the real problem drinkers who wouldn't be able to abstain for any length of time.
A persistent heavy drinker would more than likely fail the test.
In fact the general thought is to abstain completely for at least 8 weeks before hand to be on the safe side.
The high risk offender tag was introduced in june 2013.
It applies to anyone who; Blew more than 2.5 times the limit ( or blood eqiv)
Refuse a test
or second DD within 10 years.
The medical bit currently in force was introduced in 1999.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1999/2864/regul...
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1999/2864/regul...
oceanview said:
Also, as he blew more than 2.5 times the limit, he will have to pass a DVLA medical before being allowed his licence back. He will be classed as a " High risk offender"
The main part is blood being taken in which they test the CDT levels. This is a chemical the liver produces after alcohol is consumed. It also registers weeks after consumption hence they do this test to weed out the real problem drinkers who wouldn't be able to abstain for any length of time.
A persistent heavy drinker would more than likely fail the test.
In fact the general thought is to abstain completely for at least 8 weeks before hand to be on the safe side.
The high risk offender tag was introduced in june 2013.
It applies to anyone who; Blew more than 2.5 times the limit ( or blood eqiv)
Refuse a test
or second DD within 10 years.
That's very interesting, cheers. The main part is blood being taken in which they test the CDT levels. This is a chemical the liver produces after alcohol is consumed. It also registers weeks after consumption hence they do this test to weed out the real problem drinkers who wouldn't be able to abstain for any length of time.
A persistent heavy drinker would more than likely fail the test.
In fact the general thought is to abstain completely for at least 8 weeks before hand to be on the safe side.
The high risk offender tag was introduced in june 2013.
It applies to anyone who; Blew more than 2.5 times the limit ( or blood eqiv)
Refuse a test
or second DD within 10 years.
Just to make it clear, I have no sympathy and I'm glad he was caught. Just a shame he was such an idiot.
And I'm not posting on his behalf. This is, as stated, just my curiosity. Won't be reporting anything back. Court date is at the end of the month so will be interesting to see what happens.
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