Disable bay sign and fine
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Narstie318d

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4 posts

132 months

Thursday 16th June 2016
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Hi all, can I I get a little help with where I stand on this?

Was fine at 6:50pm for parking in a disable bay on a street, was popping into tesco to grab dinner but i did think I was fine due to the time being after 6pm but came back to a traffic warden and a slapped ticket on the car.
Asked the traffic warden where to pay the fine, was told where and also told that the time frame on the sign doesn't exist as its disable bay holders 24/7 which is why I was fined?

Happy to pay if am in the wrong but I do think having the time gives an impression that it's okay after 6pm



BlueHave

4,727 posts

138 months

Thursday 16th June 2016
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Read the part that says

AT ALL TIMES

here is your answer

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Thursday 16th June 2016
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Narstie318d said:
Hi all, can I I get a little help with where I stand on this?

Was fine at 6:50pm for parking in a disable bay on a street, was popping into tesco to grab dinner but i did think I was fine due to the time being after 6pm but came back to a traffic warden and a slapped ticket on the car.
Asked the traffic warden where to pay the fine, was told where and also told that the time frame on the sign doesn't exist as its disable bay holders 24/7 which is why I was fined?

Happy to pay if am in the wrong but I do think having the time gives an impression that it's okay after 6pm
DISABLED BADGE HOLDERS ONLY AT ALL TIMES.
Mon-Sat 8am-6pm, three hour max, no return within three hours.

Seems blatantly obvious to me.

If you have a disabled badge then, from Mon-Sat, 8am-6pm, there's a maximum three hour parking, no return within three hours. Outside those times, there's no time cap.
If you don't have a disabled badge, you cannot park there, at all. 24x7.

anonymous-user

84 months

Thursday 16th June 2016
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The times listed are for the 3 hour waiting limit, not the operation of the bay. Badge needed at all times

Narstie318d

Original Poster:

4 posts

132 months

Thursday 16th June 2016
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As I said am happy to pay. Think I'll put this down to along day with non stop problems

Thanks all for the help and simple answer haha

InitialDave

15,141 posts

149 months

Thursday 16th June 2016
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I think it's a poorly formatted sign, but yes, they got you fair and square.

My similar situation was parking in the one part of a street that wasn't quite the same rules as the entire other run of it both sides, for no discernable reason. Felt a bit annoyed as I thought I was obeying the requirements, but it was a fair cop.

Edited by InitialDave on Thursday 16th June 20:58

Vipers

33,514 posts

258 months

Thursday 16th June 2016
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Blimey, yellow peril working after 4pm.




smile

stuartmmcfc

8,775 posts

222 months

Thursday 16th June 2016
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At a quick glance I'd have been caught as well (well I wouldn't as I have a blue badge smile ) and I can understand your mistake.

Who me ?

7,455 posts

242 months

Thursday 16th June 2016
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First part says it all --"Blue badge holders at all times". 3 Hours ( as is normal for badge holders) at named times. Nice to see the conditions being enforced. Having a badge makes you more aware of signs like this.

Iva Barchetta

44,044 posts

193 months

Thursday 16th June 2016
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Vipers said:
Blimey, yellow peril working after 4pm.




smile
I nearly got a ticket in the middle of the night once,in the City of London.
They patrol in a car at those times.

QuickQuack

2,831 posts

131 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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Iva Barchetta said:
I nearly got a ticket in the middle of the night once,in the City of London.
They patrol in a car at those times.
Back in the 90s, I once got a ticket in central London (just off Regent Street) at 02:34am. We were going clubbing and I was the nominated driver. We went past a "suspended" parking bay and I wasn't going to park there but my sister who was also with us insisted that it would be fine as it was already past midnight. I said I would only park there if she would pay the fine if got a ticket. She laughed and said she would, but stopped laughing when we returned and there really was a ticket on the car.

Mike_Mac

664 posts

230 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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QuickQuack said:
Iva Barchetta said:
I nearly got a ticket in the middle of the night once,in the City of London.
They patrol in a car at those times.
Back in the 90s, I once got a ticket in central London (just off Regent Street) at 02:34am. We were going clubbing and I was the nominated driver. We went past a "suspended" parking bay and I wasn't going to park there but my sister who was also with us insisted that it would be fine as it was already past midnight. I said I would only park there if she would pay the fine if got a ticket. She laughed and said she would, but stopped laughing when we returned and there really was a ticket on the car.
Did she stump up, or try and weasel out of it?

QuickQuack

2,831 posts

131 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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Mike_Mac said:
QuickQuack said:
Iva Barchetta said:
I nearly got a ticket in the middle of the night once,in the City of London.
They patrol in a car at those times.
Back in the 90s, I once got a ticket in central London (just off Regent Street) at 02:34am. We were going clubbing and I was the nominated driver. We went past a "suspended" parking bay and I wasn't going to park there but my sister who was also with us insisted that it would be fine as it was already past midnight. I said I would only park there if she would pay the fine if got a ticket. She laughed and said she would, but stopped laughing when we returned and there really was a ticket on the car.
Did she stump up, or try and weasel out of it?
She did pay smile She had more money than me in those days. I was still in the second year of a 6 year degree, and being 4 years older than me, my sister had already graduated and was working.

Durzel

12,999 posts

198 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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I don't think it's poorly formatted to be honest. It says quite clearly that it's disabled badge holders at all times. The stuff underneath then just relates to their restrictions. I guess it's more intuitive if you read it in one go.. Disabled badge holders only, whom can only park for 3 hours maximum, and can't return within 3 hours of leaving.

Chris Type R

8,952 posts

279 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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Might be clearer with a line between the two sections.

boyse7en

8,198 posts

195 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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Chris Type R said:
Might be clearer with a line between the two sections.
No way! that would be far worse. It would look even more like two separate sets of instructions (which is the trap the OP fell into)

Vipers

33,514 posts

258 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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How's this for being sneaky, today's paper.






smile



KungFuPanda

4,642 posts

200 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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Surely in the above newspaper article, if a car were to park in between the two bays, they aren't parking in a pay and display bay and in the absence of any signs or yellow lines to the contrary, they can park there restriction free without having to pay anything?

S11Steve

6,389 posts

214 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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KungFuPanda said:
Surely in the above newspaper article, if a car were to park in between the two bays, they aren't parking in a pay and display bay and in the absence of any signs or yellow lines to the contrary, they can park there restriction free without having to pay anything?
Hard to tell from that photo, but I've successfully contested a number of tickets for parking in a loading bay where there has been no kerb markings. I recently had one where the bay is a P&D between 9am and 5pm, and a loading bay outside of these hours. The ticket was issued at 8pm but the signage is not clear anyway, and as there were no kerb markings to clarify it was a loading bay, the TPT appeal was upheld.

If anyone else wants to try it, this is the relevant regulation section.

“The Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2002” Part II, section 22–26 – a designated Loading Bay should be marked by a single yellow kerb marker to indicate that statutory prohibition or restrictions are in place at certain times of the day. This is displayed in Road Marking Diagram number “1019” of the 2002 Traffic Signs Regulations document.

stuartmmcfc

8,775 posts

222 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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At the end of the article it does ay there is a yellow line at the end though.