Is 'Black Diesel' legal in the UK?
Is 'Black Diesel' legal in the UK?
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AceOfHearts

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5,930 posts

214 months

Sunday 31st July 2016
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I have been doing a bit of reading and am struggling to find a definitive answer. The HMRC website is also vague and only mentions not burning red diesel or kerosene in a diesel engine.

Theoretically I would only want to burn a gallon or two a month, mixed at a 1:20 ratio with regular diesel. I know using up to 2500l of veg is ok so is old engine oil looked at the same?

Basically it seems a waste taking it to the recycling plant to be burned in ships when I could filter it and use it myself, but don't want to do anything that is likely to get me in trouble! Most sites regarding this are American where it seems fairly common practice


BlueHave

4,716 posts

131 months

Sunday 31st July 2016
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Legal from what i've read

SVTRick

3,633 posts

218 months

Monday 1st August 2016
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I trust you are running this used oil / extra stuff on an older style motor with conventional
method of diesel injection - mechanical pump and injectors with no electronics involved.
Do not put into motor with modern common rail injection it can get expensive when they fail.

Ensure you filter it well and mix it with some Derv before adding to the tank of your chosen snotter, don't just pour it neat into the tank otherwise it will look like the Exxon Valdize has tanken to the roads and get you a GV9.

Will look out for Fog Warning and U-Tube videos of Rolling Coal smile



AceOfHearts

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5,930 posts

214 months

Monday 1st August 2016
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Thanks guys, and yes its a 1985 ex military Land Rover 110 2.5na so basic mechanical injection.

I will do some more digging into the legality today if I get time, but so far looks promising. Yes I was also planning on pre-mix with diesel then putting the mix in before filling up.

ETA I am only looking to burn a small amount of oil, but if i can save 100 litres a year thats £110 more in my back pocket

Edited by AceOfHearts on Monday 1st August 13:32

PanzerCommander

5,026 posts

241 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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Yep, as far as I am aware its legal. I was looking at buying a tank (well APC) a few years ago and given the horrific rate they drink fuel I was planning on running it on filtered waste oil, contaminated diesel (where somebody has put diesel in a petrol car) as the ones I was looking at have multi-fuel engines, and other fuels. A lack of storage space (and a unit big enough to keep one in was expensive) meant it never happened and I spent the money learning to fly instead, which I think was the better idea in the long run biggrin

The Beaver King

6,095 posts

218 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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PanzerCommander said:
Yep, as far as I am aware its legal. I was looking at buying a tank (well APC) a few years ago and given the horrific rate they drink fuel I was planning on running it on filtered waste oil, contaminated diesel (where somebody has put diesel in a petrol car) as the ones I was looking at have multi-fuel engines, and other fuels. A lack of storage space (and a unit big enough to keep one in was expensive) meant it never happened and I spent the money learning to fly instead, which I think was the better idea in the long run biggrin
I've decided, based on this one post, you are the most interesting man on PH hehe

dudleybloke

20,553 posts

209 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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Flying tank is the way forward now I think!

LewG

1,388 posts

169 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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FV432 by any chance?

PanzerCommander

5,026 posts

241 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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LewG said:
FV432 by any chance?
Yep smile

Josho

748 posts

120 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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I ran an old Golf SDI on pure veg oil and then in the end pure waste engine/gearbox oil.

It started stty in the winter but putting a plastic tube into the air intake pipe and through the bonnet release grommit meant that a quick squirt of easy start in the morning and it would run all day. It STANK but it was nearly free to run.

PanzerCommander

5,026 posts

241 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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dudleybloke said:
Flying tank is the way forward now I think!
Only in Russia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonov_A-40

AceOfHearts

Original Poster:

5,930 posts

214 months

Thursday 4th August 2016
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Josho said:
I ran an old Golf SDI on pure veg oil and then in the end pure waste engine/gearbox oil.

It started stty in the winter but putting a plastic tube into the air intake pipe and through the bonnet release grommit meant that a quick squirt of easy start in the morning and it would run all day. It STANK but it was nearly free to run.
Thanks, how did you process your oil before you burned it?

SiH

1,852 posts

270 months

Thursday 4th August 2016
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The Beaver King said:
I've decided, based on this one post, you are the most interesting man on PH hehe
With perhaps, in retrospect, the least appropriate name!