unmarked cameravan?
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cmaguire said:
mph1977 said:
or you could just not be a criminal / take responsibility for your own actions ...
Criminal.Maybe if I say it enough times I'll start to believe it?
No, I can't take that seriously.
PAULJ5555 said:
What about all the criminals who have killed people when speeding. Laws are their for a reason.
it's an almost free-wibble fallacy that some people hold dear that speeding, shop-lifting and various others crimes are 'victimless' and exist only to appease corporate interests and raise money for the exchequer. mph1977 said:
it's an almost free-wibble fallacy that some people hold dear that speeding, shop-lifting and various others crimes are 'victimless' and exist only to appease corporate interests and raise money for the exchequer.
Speeding.Shop-lifting.
Various other crimes.
In nearly all cases speeding is victimless, there is no intent to involve or impact upon a third party, and that rarely happens.
In nearly all cases shop-lifting isn't victimless, as property is being stolen (perhaps all, but there may be some exceptions not obvious at first thought)
And various other crimes?
But much like discussions about disciplining children by spanking or the like always come back to Baby P and the like, nearly all discussions about speed always get brought back to kids getting mown down in residential areas.
When we all know the discussion should be about NSL
cmaguire said:
Speeding.
Shop-lifting.
Various other crimes.
In nearly all cases speeding is victimless, there is no intent to involve or impact upon a third party, and that rarely happens.
In nearly all cases shop-lifting isn't victimless, as property is being stolen (perhaps all, but there may be some exceptions not obvious at first thought)
And various other crimes?
But much like discussions about disciplining children by spanking or the like always come back to Baby P and the like, nearly all discussions about speed always get brought back to kids getting mown down in residential areas.
When we all know the discussion should be about NSL
Inapropiate speed.I could be driving at 15 to 20 mph when children are leaving school and it would be to quick.On the courses Safety Camara they mention braking distances etc.Speed related to braking and reaction.Shop-lifting.
Various other crimes.
In nearly all cases speeding is victimless, there is no intent to involve or impact upon a third party, and that rarely happens.
In nearly all cases shop-lifting isn't victimless, as property is being stolen (perhaps all, but there may be some exceptions not obvious at first thought)
And various other crimes?
But much like discussions about disciplining children by spanking or the like always come back to Baby P and the like, nearly all discussions about speed always get brought back to kids getting mown down in residential areas.
When we all know the discussion should be about NSL
That didn't safe my little mate Harry who stepped out into the road and got killed in front of me.The driver was apparently driving very slow but couldn't react in time to miss Harry.
Jonny TVR said:
On the motorway last night there was a suspicious looking van on a bridge with a cut out black window on the side facing oncoming traffic. It was blue and from what I could see had no markings. Is this an unmarked camera van I wonder
No idea about other parts of the country, but in Norwich I've seen vans very much as you describe.Usually parked up on reasonably busy routes within the city (not seen them on bridges over any of the main A roads).
Always seem to be accompanied by officers tucked away in a nearby road, mostly on motorcycles. Therefore, I assume they are ANPR cameras rather than speed cameras.
pim said:
Inapropiate speed.I could be driving at 15 to 20 mph when children are leaving school and it would be to quick.On the courses Safety Camara they mention braking distances etc.Speed related to braking and reaction.
That didn't safe my little mate Harry who stepped out into the road and got killed in front of me.The driver was apparently driving very slow but couldn't react in time to miss Harry.
The concept of inappropriate speed is probably most relevant as regards the validity of an ever increasing number of reduced limits forced upon us rather than the speed of those obeying those limits.That didn't safe my little mate Harry who stepped out into the road and got killed in front of me.The driver was apparently driving very slow but couldn't react in time to miss Harry.
pim said:
mph1977 said:
or you could just not be a criminal / take responsibility for your own actions ...
Excuse me? Are you mister saint if you are bless you.Maybe it takes one to know one.1. don't commit the crime
2. don't whinge when you get caught
Jonny TVR said:
On the motorway last night there was a suspicious looking van on a bridge with a cut out black window on the side facing oncoming traffic. It was blue and from what I could see had no markings. Is this an unmarked camera van I wonder
Saw this one last week, maybe not as inconspicuous as yours but a new one on me to see it in dark livery. You can just about make out the dark red POLICE at the top of the doors...
Well unsurprisingly the thread degenerated quickly into the usual suspects full of self righteousness because they've NEVER exceeded the speed limit.
Someone will be along in a minute to start talking about the "crime" of misrepresenting number plates leading to other serious crime.
You know, like everyone who starts smoking cigarettes ends up on heroin
I think most of the aforementioned suspects stayed at the smoking crack stage.
Someone will be along in a minute to start talking about the "crime" of misrepresenting number plates leading to other serious crime.
You know, like everyone who starts smoking cigarettes ends up on heroin
I think most of the aforementioned suspects stayed at the smoking crack stage.mph1977 said:
PAULJ5555 said:
What about all the criminals who have killed people when speeding. Laws are their for a reason.
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