Black box scores confusion
Discussion
I've just installed a black box into my Fiat Panda, and driven to the shops and back to test it out,
The brand of blackbox is DriveXpert, and on their website you can track individual journeys, which is pretty helpful.
These are the two stats boxes from my drives, which I did in exactly the same driving style and attitude, on two different routes, the first one using lots of crossroads, and the second one a slightly longer route, missing out the crossroads, and scoring a much lower risk?
The only reason I can think of is the number of stop-starts and crossroads, but surely that can't affect 'Smooth Driving'? Does anyone have any idea why?
The brand of blackbox is DriveXpert, and on their website you can track individual journeys, which is pretty helpful.
These are the two stats boxes from my drives, which I did in exactly the same driving style and attitude, on two different routes, the first one using lots of crossroads, and the second one a slightly longer route, missing out the crossroads, and scoring a much lower risk?
The only reason I can think of is the number of stop-starts and crossroads, but surely that can't affect 'Smooth Driving'? Does anyone have any idea why?
Have you tried I the tesco insurance drive app,
Similar storey can drive like an adi on diamond assessment score top marks on everything but it's says cornering yellow to red. Running the Aviva drive app at same time different phone, scores me good on all over all 9.1 with corner master award
Similar storey can drive like an adi on diamond assessment score top marks on everything but it's says cornering yellow to red. Running the Aviva drive app at same time different phone, scores me good on all over all 9.1 with corner master award
When one of these apps / systems can actually define, understand and measure good driving it will be worth noting how they score you. Until then they are scoring your ability to drive to the app's parameters which will be based on speed and deviation from the flat and level (yaw / pitch / etc). I would imagine it would find it difficult to differentiate between stopping and then crossing a cross roads, and doing an emergency stop to avoid a cyclist and then continuing on your journey... Both will see you come to a stop and then start off in a straight line, one is normal driving the other might indicate bad observation... How would it tell the difference...
It is rather like IQ tests which basically measure your ability to take IQ tests!
It is rather like IQ tests which basically measure your ability to take IQ tests!
I'd suggest a longer drive. Going "no miles" and one mile isn't going to give enough data to be useful, so I'd expect odd results from such a comparison. Something like a range gauge will also be all to cock if you just drive a very short distance, anything like this needs a decent period to get a good picture.
how are 1 mile journey lengths very good?
who would you rather insure, the guy that does his 10-15k miles a year mostly on 1 50 mile round trip a day, or someone doing 50 1 mile trips a day?
One is driving to work every day, like a normal person, the other is constantly jumping in and out the car doing god know what
who would you rather insure, the guy that does his 10-15k miles a year mostly on 1 50 mile round trip a day, or someone doing 50 1 mile trips a day?
One is driving to work every day, like a normal person, the other is constantly jumping in and out the car doing god know what
I had something similar in my car as part of a cheap insurance offer.
Thought my driving was just average from the weekly feedback I was being given.
Decided it was a load of bull when I was given identical feedback for the 2 weeks that the car hadn't moved an inch as I'd taken another car to the 'Ring.
Thought my driving was just average from the weekly feedback I was being given.
Decided it was a load of bull when I was given identical feedback for the 2 weeks that the car hadn't moved an inch as I'd taken another car to the 'Ring.
akirk said:
When one of these apps / systems can actually define, understand and measure good driving it will be worth noting how they score you. Until then they are scoring your ability to drive to the app's parameters which will be based on speed and deviation from the flat and level (yaw / pitch / etc). I would imagine it would find it difficult to differentiate between stopping and then crossing a cross roads, and doing an emergency stop to avoid a cyclist and then continuing on your journey... Both will see you come to a stop and then start off in a straight line, one is normal driving the other might indicate bad observation... How would it tell the difference...
It is rather like IQ tests which basically measure your ability to take IQ tests!
You do emergency stops at Give Way / Stop signs? Maybe the app isn't so bad at spotting a poor driver after all. It is rather like IQ tests which basically measure your ability to take IQ tests!
Toltec said:
I wonder how they react to a road lined with speed bumps, 35, 10, 28, 12, 37, 11, 31, 8, 34, 10...
I tried the Aviva App on my phone a few months ago - driving through Sheffield (twinned with Syria based on quality of road surfacing) I was getting lots of spurious readings on acceleration and smoothness. Running the kids around some of the residential areas at weekends, I was also getting similar readings from the many speed humped roads.On longer journeys though it did level out and resulted in a much higher score.
As this product is mainly aimed at younger/newer drivers, I can imagine it is a licence to print money - the majority of newer drivers will be on shorter local journeys, and will still be quite reactionary in their driving style, and not as smooth as someone who has had years of practice of clutch control, smooth braking and anticipating the road ahead.
S11Steve said:
I tried the Aviva App on my phone a few months ago - driving through Sheffield (twinned with Syria based on quality of road surfacing) I was getting lots of spurious readings on acceleration and smoothness. Running the kids around some of the residential areas at weekends, I was also getting similar readings from the many speed humped roads.
On longer journeys though it did level out and resulted in a much higher score.
As this product is mainly aimed at younger/newer drivers, I can imagine it is a licence to print money - the majority of newer drivers will be on shorter local journeys, and will still be quite reactionary in their driving style, and not as smooth as someone who has had years of practice of clutch control, smooth braking and anticipating the road ahead.
How can it be a licence to print money when the premium for these insurance policies are much, much lower than ones without it?On longer journeys though it did level out and resulted in a much higher score.
As this product is mainly aimed at younger/newer drivers, I can imagine it is a licence to print money - the majority of newer drivers will be on shorter local journeys, and will still be quite reactionary in their driving style, and not as smooth as someone who has had years of practice of clutch control, smooth braking and anticipating the road ahead.
snorky782 said:
How can it be a licence to print money when the premium for these insurance policies are much, much lower than ones without it?
In theory, yes they probably are cheaper if certain driving conditions are met. But I'm not sure that many newly qualified drivers could meet the standards within the first year. I may well be wrong, but I thought it was now the rule rather than exception that young drivers could only get insured with the devices. Sometimes getting older has advantages!
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