Classic Pistol ND
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Dunno, either the round in the chamber failed to eject (rare) or he still had the mag in (common).
Either way his finger should have been no where near the trigger, bad practice to dry fire your weapon. (stop sniggering at the back)
Any way I am not sure if it was planned... could have been a blank???
Either way his finger should have been no where near the trigger, bad practice to dry fire your weapon. (stop sniggering at the back)
Any way I am not sure if it was planned... could have been a blank???
philthy said:
My guess is, he left the mag in !! what a knobber !!
Phil
Either way he failed to do the very first thing id have done: Ensure the weapon is empty...
Man he couldve blown someones head off in there with his "im the only one professional enough" bollox...lololol wonder if he can still hear a ringing sound?
When the weapon is first seen, it is cocked. He dry fires it on what appears to be an empty chamber. He then appears to attempt to cock it at which point it discharges. Either:
1) He neglected to remove the magazine and subsequently chambered a round and accidentally fired the weapon.
2) An already chambered round mis-fired the first time but then discharged (possible hang-fire or cock/fire cycle).
Whatever, he broke several of the cardinal rules of handling a weapon. Accepting that he was demonstrating to an audience of children (something I would prefer not to do with any weapon and certainly not a firearm), he neglected to ensure there was no ammunition in the room, he failed to ensure the weapon was safe (unloaded, no magazine and checked by a qualified third-party) - I would also say that any weapon used for such demonstration purposes should have the firing pin removed or the breech blocked. Whilst he points the weapon 'away' from the class, he does not point it downwards (of course, there might have been a classromm below the one in which he is demonstrating). Ideally, such demonstrations should take place on a controlled range or outside.
All-in-all, a good demonstration of stupidity. With a little more practice and the same degree of stupidity he might qualify for a Darwin Award next time.
Streaky
1) He neglected to remove the magazine and subsequently chambered a round and accidentally fired the weapon.
2) An already chambered round mis-fired the first time but then discharged (possible hang-fire or cock/fire cycle).
Whatever, he broke several of the cardinal rules of handling a weapon. Accepting that he was demonstrating to an audience of children (something I would prefer not to do with any weapon and certainly not a firearm), he neglected to ensure there was no ammunition in the room, he failed to ensure the weapon was safe (unloaded, no magazine and checked by a qualified third-party) - I would also say that any weapon used for such demonstration purposes should have the firing pin removed or the breech blocked. Whilst he points the weapon 'away' from the class, he does not point it downwards (of course, there might have been a classromm below the one in which he is demonstrating). Ideally, such demonstrations should take place on a controlled range or outside.
All-in-all, a good demonstration of stupidity. With a little more practice and the same degree of stupidity he might qualify for a Darwin Award next time.
Streaky
We usually work on the principle "never aim a gun towards anything you don't want to kill". Its a principle that works well regardless of the situation.
I did have to take issue with the two civilians who came to take my dad's pistols post Firearms Act. We showed them they were clear before we passed them across, the civilians then spent the next few minutes waving them about with apparent disregard to any form of safety. In the end I took the pistols off them and put breach plugs in.
I did have to take issue with the two civilians who came to take my dad's pistols post Firearms Act. We showed them they were clear before we passed them across, the civilians then spent the next few minutes waving them about with apparent disregard to any form of safety. In the end I took the pistols off them and put breach plugs in.
"I am the only one professional enough to handle this glock" 
Not funny but I remember an incident in moscow barracks, belfast when a young chap let one loose from a 9mm in the armoury. Thankfully no one hurt, but a big painted ring was put around the hole in the floor, identifying the plonker, and his mistake.
He's probably a major or something now.
Not funny but I remember an incident in moscow barracks, belfast when a young chap let one loose from a 9mm in the armoury. Thankfully no one hurt, but a big painted ring was put around the hole in the floor, identifying the plonker, and his mistake.
He's probably a major or something now.
kevinday said:The slide appears open to start with.
What a prat, seems to me (after watching the vid 4 times) the gun was locked open, he then released the slide which chambered a round from the magazine. He did not dry fire it, he then proceeded to pull the trigger when it was ready to fire.
All Glocks (except for ones chambered in 9x17 - .380ACP) are recoil operated, locked breech pistols. Glocks feature Browning-type linkless locking system with barrel interlocking with slide via ejection port. All Glocks feature a patented "Safe action" striker-fired trigger mechanism. After the each cycle of the slide the striker is set to half-cock position and is safely blocked by an internal safety. When the firer pulls the trigger, he disengades the trigger safety first, cocks the striker to the full-cock and then fires the gun. This results in a constant trigger pull (ajustable from 2 to 5.5 kg) and, unlike the traditional DA or DAO pistols, no "second strike" option in case of a misfire. All Glocks have no external controls except the trigger and the slide stop (the only different is the Glock 18, which has a slide mounted fire mode selector).
The select-fire version of the Glock - the Glock 18 - is available only in 9mm Luger and only for Military/Law enforcement sales. The theoretical rate of fire in full-auto mode is 1200 rounds per minute.
Streaky
>> Edited by streaky on Thursday 10th March 18:43
kenp said:ROF is quoted in RPM regardless of magazine capacity ... that's why I said 'theoretical'.
The theoretical rate of fire in full-auto mode is 1200 rounds per minute.
Streaky
The Phalanx Close-In Weapons System (CIWS) has a ROF of 4,500 rounds/min but a magazine capacity of only 1,550 rounds. Thus it fires for a maximum of 20.66 seconds before a reload is necessary. In that time it might engage more than one missile or littoral warfare target.
In contrast (this for the conspiracy-theorists here), (some) tests showed that to operate the bolt and place on (stationary) target the Mannlicher-Carcano allegedly used by Lee Harvey Oswald to assassinate Pres. Kennedy took about 2.3 seconds. HOWEVER, the ROF (incl. placing on target) of the M-C is considerably better than this; an expert marksman is capable of hitting a moving target accurately three times within 4.6 seconds (indicating a ROF of some 39 RPM from a 6 round magazine).
Streaky
YarisSi said:
What do you do streaky?
Out of interest what are the rules on replica blank firing guns since you seem to be well infromed.
These days I'm 'semi-retired' (see below).
Previously I have led an 'interesting' life - I've been blown up (once - resulting in some loss of hearing) and wounded twice by gun-fire (once resulting in an injury you wouldn't like to hear described; an inch or two higher and it would have severely shortened my life, it did shorten something else!
). I have discharged firearms 'in anger' on several occasions (results unknown, but 'they' kept firing at me!). I hold (or more accurately, given the passage of time, 'held') a 'Marksman' qualification. I have fired revolvers and pistols of various makes and calibre; carbines and machine pistols, including TokyoMarui Uzi, HK MP5 and Ingram Mac10; Vickers, LMG and Bren; Lee Enfield Mk4 .303, 7.62mm SLR, SA80, M16, AK-47 and other military and civilian rifles; various Barretts and other sniper rifles; various RPGs; LAWS and PIAT anti-tank weapons; and (very memorably) on one occasion a M777 155mm Ultralightweight Field Howitzer ... from the shoulder! No, only joking ... it was from the hip! I have had the immense pleasure of being wined and dined around the world in Army, Air Force and Naval messes (WO and officers) and several Embassies and Consulates of Her Majesty and other governments. I have 'worked' in 53 countries - on every continent except the Antarctic. I have acted, on occasion, as an Expert Witness in court (civil, criminal and military), under UK and other jurisdictions.
As to what I did ... let's say I was a security consultant
. I am now an author and a (like many authors, otherwise unemployed) consultant. As to replica, BB or blank-firing guns, I have no particular interest or knowledge; and cannot comment of any aspects of legality. I would caution, however, against taking them out in public or even waving them around in the garden ... the results could be most unfortunate.
Streaky
PS xxxxxxrich - I am not and never have been a 'gangster' ... but I've met some who fall into that category
- S PPS - my favourite weapon? The M777! For closer quarter work I'd pick the MP5 and would (and did) 'pack' the Browning Hi-Power (King of Nines) with 13 rounds of Winchester 147gr Ranger SXT - S
PPPS - I will forever cherish the look on the BA stewardess's face when I was met on arrival in Bogota at the aircraft door by my 'handler' and given a Hi-Power. She kindly assisted me into the shoulder harness with barely a tremble ... true British reserve ... but her expression was a picture! Mind you, I wasn't expecting that outcome of the summons from my seat whilst we were still taxiing after landing - S
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