Economics of new speedcam, A556, North of M6 J19
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Thats 2 lanes in each direction, with a gnat's chuff of space to divide the flow of traffic.
Personally I think this is one road that can justify cameras, before they knocked the speed limits down you had traffic passing within 2 feet of eachother at relative speeds of 140mph+. Its an extremely busy rush hour route, and traffic can turn into side-roads left and right, as there is no central res. There are also some well hidden traffic light junctions, one is over the crest of a hill, and another appears from behind a sweeping left hander.
Dangerous road tbh.
>> Edited by parrot of doom on Saturday 12th March 20:22
Personally I think this is one road that can justify cameras, before they knocked the speed limits down you had traffic passing within 2 feet of eachother at relative speeds of 140mph+. Its an extremely busy rush hour route, and traffic can turn into side-roads left and right, as there is no central res. There are also some well hidden traffic light junctions, one is over the crest of a hill, and another appears from behind a sweeping left hander.
Dangerous road tbh.
>> Edited by parrot of doom on Saturday 12th March 20:22
parrot of doom said:There are other forms of safety engineering - Streaky
Personally I think this is one road that can justify cameras, before they knocked the speed limits down you had traffic passing within 2 feet of eachother at relative speeds of 140mph+. Its an extremely busy rush hour route, and traffic can turn into side-roads left and right, as there is no central res. There are also some well hidden traffic light junctions, one is over the crest of a hill, and another appears from behind a sweeping left hander.
streaky said:
There are other forms of safety engineering - Streaky
Yes, I totally agree, but lets say you haven't driven the road - you really have to see it to realise how dangerous it could be. Its not as if you can widen it either, because there are many bordering properties, and you can't narrow the lanes as lots of HGVs use it. You can't make it a single carriageway because that was create HUGE tailbacks every day.
www.bbc.co.uk/england/roadsafety/2star.shtml
Really, I think this is one road that deserves the 50mph limit (although there are other sections with central res that have 60mph as a limit).
parrot of doom said:I used to live in Cheshire ... know the A556 well. Had a major shunt on it 30+ years ago which gave SWMBO (to be) whiplash that haunts her today. I was the meat in a sandwich when an idiot pulled out in front of a high speed 'convoy'; got stuffed up the rear (oo, er missus!) by a '3VO' - at least that was all I saw of the car's make in the rear-view mirror - and from stationary some 10 yards into the back of a Wolsey - Streaky
There are other forms of safety engineering - Streaky
Yes, I totally agree, but lets say you haven't driven the road - you really have to see it to realise how dangerous it could be. Its not as if you can widen it either, because there are many bordering properties, and you can't narrow the lanes as lots of HGVs use it. You can't make it a single carriageway because that was create HUGE tailbacks every day.
www.bbc.co.uk/england/roadsafety/2star.shtml
Really, I think this is one road that deserves the 50mph limit (although there are other sections with central res that have 60mph as a limit).
It was going to be replaced by the A556(M), but then this got knocked on the head for 'safety improvements' to the to the existing road.
We all know what these 'improvements' are.
Why spend a lot of money when we can do up the old road on the cheap and make a little money on the side?
We all know what these 'improvements' are.
Why spend a lot of money when we can do up the old road on the cheap and make a little money on the side?
parrot of doom said:
Thats 2 lanes in each direction, with a gnat's chuff of space to divide the flow of traffic.
So how's that different from your typical NSL? (Except they only have one lane in either direction.
I take your points, but it's only especially busy at rush hour, and then the volume of traffic limits the speed anyway.
When it's quiet, you have two whole lanes separating the flow of traffic. Keeping to 50 is excruciating. Like I said, they're going to make a mint on this particular camera.
parrot of doom said:
Really, I think this is one road that deserves the 50mph limit (although there are other sections with central res that have 60mph as a limit).
Ah, so you're the numpty that brakes to 60mph in the 70mph limit dual carriageway section!!
I actually use this road every day and have done for nearly 15 years. It is dangerous, but thats because this backward little monarchy we live in still thinks it OK for the countries 3rd largest city to link to the main arterial N S Motorway via a crappy little road that has cows wandering along it twice daily. The milk drom the cows is worth about 200 quid a day and the cost of the traffic jam and the accidents runs into millions and millions. This milk is a bargain really Tesco pay about 6p a pint for the stuff and its cost about 2 grand a pint to produce.
Next the Mere Golf and country club refuse to re-site the entrance to their estate so despite not being able to turn right to go to Knustford anymore you can still block the road if you fancy a round of golf.
Just as you exit the roundabout from the M6 and head for the M56 there is every likelihood that some numpty will be turning right into a tiny back road. Accidents happen there all the time but Nimbys in Cheshire are very powerful and whats a few dead people anyway so long as the farmers are still enjoying themselves.
Still heading in the same direction now there are traffic lights at the Swan inn. There is more than enough land to build a right turn lane here and its so close to the M56 roundabout that a simple no right turn would suffice but no the planners have not even put a right filter in place.
In all the A 556 fulfills its function perfectly. You see the planners start from the premis that 'cars are bad and drugs are good'. Then they try to arrange as much congestion and death as possible so that this coupled with the inane ramblings of Greenpeace, Brake and T2K will result in ordinary people believing the car must go and be replaced with public transport. And they will create a new Britain the way their glorious leader Joseph Stalin would have wanted.
Next the Mere Golf and country club refuse to re-site the entrance to their estate so despite not being able to turn right to go to Knustford anymore you can still block the road if you fancy a round of golf.
Just as you exit the roundabout from the M6 and head for the M56 there is every likelihood that some numpty will be turning right into a tiny back road. Accidents happen there all the time but Nimbys in Cheshire are very powerful and whats a few dead people anyway so long as the farmers are still enjoying themselves.
Still heading in the same direction now there are traffic lights at the Swan inn. There is more than enough land to build a right turn lane here and its so close to the M56 roundabout that a simple no right turn would suffice but no the planners have not even put a right filter in place.
In all the A 556 fulfills its function perfectly. You see the planners start from the premis that 'cars are bad and drugs are good'. Then they try to arrange as much congestion and death as possible so that this coupled with the inane ramblings of Greenpeace, Brake and T2K will result in ordinary people believing the car must go and be replaced with public transport. And they will create a new Britain the way their glorious leader Joseph Stalin would have wanted.
'King Deadly said:
Ah, so you're the numpty that brakes to 60mph in the 70mph limit dual carriageway section!!
I don't really travel much on the section south of the M6, but north of the M6 the entire stretch up to the M56 is either 50mph or 60mph isn't it? No NSL sections in there AFAIK.
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