getting double yellow lines put down
Discussion
wjwren said:
People park opposite and it means i cant pull off the drive without going backwards and forwards few times.
If they're causing an obstruction, no lines are needed for it to be illegal.If it's purely down to driver incompetence, then that's a very different matter. Show us a photo.
I think this is the responsibility of the County Council. Judging from what happens around here (Essex), the first thing to do is complain to the local council and get your councillor on the case. If it is a genuine problem and they get on side they can do 2 things. Firstly, paint a solid white line which hopefully discourages people from parking. Secondly, they can refer it to the County Council who will assess it and if necessary go through the process of advertising they are going to put in parking restrictions, listen to objections and then paint the lines. Around here that can take over a year.
wjwren said:
What are the chances of applying to the council to get double yellows put down by my house? People park opposite and it means i cant pull off the drive without going backwards and forwards few times.
Lucky you, the only way I'd be able to avoid having to do that would be to have four of my neighbours garages demolished and rebuilt further from mine.Which county are you in?
Look at the LA (county, not town) highways dept website, they will have a "Lcal Highways Panel" or similar, where locals can bring up the minor bits and bobs that need action. Or speak to your councillor.
You may not actually get DYLs (sledgehammer, nut, plus £££) but you may get white H-bars, they're not enforceable but they are pretty good at alerting people to issues they may cause by parking there.
Forgive if this is silly advice, but don't go wading in demanding DYLs - highways depts get a HUGE amount of armchair experts and entitled elderlies demanding them without realising what other options are available...
Look at the LA (county, not town) highways dept website, they will have a "Lcal Highways Panel" or similar, where locals can bring up the minor bits and bobs that need action. Or speak to your councillor.
You may not actually get DYLs (sledgehammer, nut, plus £££) but you may get white H-bars, they're not enforceable but they are pretty good at alerting people to issues they may cause by parking there.
Forgive if this is silly advice, but don't go wading in demanding DYLs - highways depts get a HUGE amount of armchair experts and entitled elderlies demanding them without realising what other options are available...
not wishing to hi-jack the thread, but I have the same problem .. I know I can't do anything about it because I can get my car out, it's just a pain *BUT* if I want to get my car trailer out it's impossible, I have to find the owners and ask them to move, not really practical at 6 in the morning .. so it's obstruction in some cases?
Dicky Knee said:
I think this is the responsibility of the County Council. Judging from what happens around here (Essex), the first thing to do is complain to the local council and get your councillor on the case. If it is a genuine problem and they get on side they can do 2 things. Firstly, paint a solid white line which hopefully discourages people from parking. Secondly, they can refer it to the County Council who will assess it and if necessary go through the process of advertising they are going to put in parking restrictions, listen to objections and then paint the lines. Around here that can take over a year.
This. The year breakdown is roughly as follows... DYLs need:
A month of monitoring to make sure the problem is valid. (We get a lot of armchair experts who tell us what their version of the problem is, which is usually quite heavily biased and not 100% accurate.)
A month to find out what buried services there are (obliged to find out when we put signs up). (Delay is on the utility company side, they ask for 4 weeks)
A month to get sign-off from the exec councillor. (Delay on the Councillor)
A month to get prices for the works (very little is self delivered). (Delay from tendering contractors)
A couple of months to address objections from locals - for every person that wants DYLs there will be one that doesn't, and both will end up running to the councillor, who then asks for other options to be investigated, which takes more time and usually ends up back at square 1. (Delay depends on vociferousness of the locals)
Time for the TRO advertising and objection period (further afield). (Statutory timescales)
Time to book the permit/roadspace. (Time depends on who else wants/needs to be on the road at that time)
Then a month for mobilisation, site notification etc. (Contractor requirement)
H bars just need a contractor, can probably be done inside 2 months. No orders, no signing, no objections.
Love,
An Essex highways engineer.
Out of interest, what is the legal position regarding parking opposite a drive? Our street is narrow and people park opposite drives - doesn't stop people using them but if DYL were brough in for instance then a lot of kerbside parking would be lost. So it is dependent on how useable the drive is? And what is 'useable' - my mustang is a lot harder to park than an Ford Ka for instance.
Hbars only deter people from parking across your driveway so can't see them any way stopping someone parking opposite...
Hbars only deter people from parking across your driveway so can't see them any way stopping someone parking opposite...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1293070/Pa...
take a leaf out of this parish councillor and paint your own or a ahem "friend" painted out about two cars worth of yellow lines outside our London office in the 80s and removed the wall plate. Worked for about three years
take a leaf out of this parish councillor and paint your own or a ahem "friend" painted out about two cars worth of yellow lines outside our London office in the 80s and removed the wall plate. Worked for about three years
ozzuk said:
Hbars only deter people from parking across your driveway so can't see them any way stopping someone parking opposite...
True, but any decent person would probably look and see why they were there, and would surmise that parking there would make life awkward for others. Unless we see a pic, we won't know the specifics in this case... wjwren said:
I asked him if he would move the van as it was causing an obstruction as it was wholly in the road. He has just moved it onto the pavement instead - well 2 wheels on etc. So not ideal as still tight to get out. Plus now on the pavement.
It's certainly not a great place to park that van - but I don't know where else you're suggesting he parks it. It's clearly not going to fit in his drive.It's not restricting your access, though. From where the BMW is, you're going to need to turn right out anyway, else you'll be over the kerb rather than that drop. The sprogbus likewise, reverse out to the left.
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