Property with shared gutter
Property with shared gutter
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speedking31

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3,945 posts

166 months

Monday 21st November 2016
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Looking for some general advice before I do proper research. Trying to resolve by discussion, but wonder what, typically, rights we have?

My Mum lives in a 1960's terraced house. The gutter at the rear is continuous across her and the neighbour's property with the downpipe at the far side of the neighbours'.

3-4 years ago she had her (half of) gutter replaced, no problems. Neighbour had his done in the summer. With the recent heavy rain water is pouring over the gutter around the boundary position. I went up a ladder in the summer and cleared all the moss from my Mum's gutter. In a couple of years it got pretty choked. Neighbour has allegedly done the same. Looking at the alignment, he seems to have a rise in the middle of his run, which could cause water to sit in the gutter weighing it down and distort it.

So, we have spoken, but he says its clear and can do no more. I haven't looked since. What sort of rights do we have, if any? I'm guessing that we can't instruct a gutterer to go on their land? I would be uncomfortable putting ladders up against their house and peering into the bedroom. As the houses are terraced, access is difficult, so nipping round while they're out is not a feasible option. We obviously don't want to go legal over such a small issue. Unfortunately I live 150 miles away so difficult to get directly involved.

Any advice?

Grunt Futtock

335 posts

129 months

Monday 21st November 2016
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speedking31 said:
Looking for some general advice before I do proper research. Trying to resolve by discussion, but wonder what, typically, rights we have?

My Mum lives in a 1960's terraced house. The gutter at the rear is continuous across her and the neighbour's property with the downpipe at the far side of the neighbours'.

3-4 years ago she had her (half of) gutter replaced, no problems. Neighbour had his done in the summer. With the recent heavy rain water is pouring over the gutter around the boundary position. I went up a ladder in the summer and cleared all the moss from my Mum's gutter. In a couple of years it got pretty choked. Neighbour has allegedly done the same. Looking at the alignment, he seems to have a rise in the middle of his run, which could cause water to sit in the gutter weighing it down and distort it.

So, we have spoken, but he says its clear and can do no more. I haven't looked since. What sort of rights do we have, if any? I'm guessing that we can't instruct a gutterer to go on their land? I would be uncomfortable putting ladders up against their house and peering into the bedroom. As the houses are terraced, access is difficult, so nipping round while they're out is not a feasible option. We obviously don't want to go legal over such a small issue. Unfortunately I live 150 miles away so difficult to get directly involved.

Any advice?
Could you not just approach them again and ask if you can have a look from their side so you can work out what is causing the overspill? It would presumably benefit both parties to stop it so I can't see why they would refuse unless they haven't been arsed to clear their bit?

speedking31

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3,945 posts

166 months

Monday 21st November 2016
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That's what we're trying. Annoyingly he works shifts and has a shed at the boundary, so most of the spill on his side bounces straight back over the fence to ours. Wondered if there was 'normally' any right of access in this type of scenario?

Jonno02

2,262 posts

139 months

Monday 21st November 2016
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Get a roofer out for a quote on rehanging his gutters? Should be around £200-300, depending on location. Then discuss it with him? Poorly hanging gutters may mean than in a few months he could have wet interior walls. There's a reason that gutters exist and should not allow water to overflow the side.

QuickQuack

2,827 posts

131 months

Monday 21st November 2016
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I'd start with putting up a ladder on your mother's side again first, there might be more muck that's blocking it. I need to clear some of our gutters every few months, some haven't needed clearing in years. Unless you can see from the ground that the gutter isn't properly levelled, I would say that bowing wouldn't be an issue.

KevinCamaroSS

13,846 posts

310 months

Monday 21st November 2016
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Any way of making your mother's end a bit higher? Then it will flow over the raised bit.

paulwirral

3,828 posts

165 months

Monday 21st November 2016
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re hang them on your mothers house and install a downpipe , she must have a drain somewhere at the back of the house ?
You'll never have a problem again .

roofer

5,136 posts

241 months

Monday 21st November 2016
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paulwirral said:
re hang them on your mothers house and install a downpipe , she must have a drain somewhere at the back of the house ?
You'll never have a problem again .
Possibility, especially if the kitchen is at the rear. Barring that, up the ladder with a hose and see what's occurring.

gazz81

172 posts

162 months

Monday 21st November 2016
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Yep, isolate her gutter at each end and fit a downpipe.

speedking31

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3,945 posts

166 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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Kitchen at the front, no drain at the rear. She spoke to him today, he said "You have a problem, not me." Getting gutter tradesman out tomorrow to take a look. Will cost, but if it is his side then getting something in writing from a 'professional' should help. Looking for a quicker fix, all gutterers are too busy to attend to do work.

Red Devil

13,524 posts

238 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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speedking31 said:
She spoke to him today, he said "You have a problem, not me."
Charming fellow. rolleyes How does he know for certain the problem is not caused by a defect in his section?


Tommo Two

217 posts

175 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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Had very similar problem recently with overflowing gutter, caused by a blocked down pipe on neighbors side (semi detached house). Fortunately it was only just on their side so, i could reach it from the top of a ladder whilst still on my property. Out of politeness told them what I was doing and they were really thankful.

The useful bit for you might be: unblocking the gutter on the neighbors side from your side (if this will help the problem?)
dust pan & brush type brush, duc tape, lengths of wood, broom handles, etc etc.

tape brush to 1st bit of wood. Take up ladder, when at the top of the ladder clean everything you can reach, have assistant pass up another length of wood broom handle etc and tape, attach together and keep cleaning!

rfisher

5,064 posts

313 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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Fit this while you're up there.



You can slide it along to his gutter without having to put a ladder on his property if he get awkward.

BlueHave

4,727 posts

138 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2016
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Had this with a neighbour recently. He is a lazy bd to be blunt.

Had to clean my gutter several times a year because he refuses to clean his and all the ste flows over into mine.


anonymous-user

84 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2016
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As someone else has said just drop another down spout as close to the edge of your boundry as you can. stop all water cascading down your external wall, and if there is no drain just extend end of pipe away from wall a small amount.

Davel

8,982 posts

288 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2016
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You don't really want to make a dispute out of this if you can avoid it.

Get a handyman to go up a ladder and take a look.

There may be a simple solution.

What a stty neighbour!