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Just got an email at work
It is becoming increasingly evident that motorists are speeding well in excess of the 30 mph speed limit on main arterial roads on the site, in particular on Broadway, Boundary Road North and Queens Avenue West. Both observations from site security staff and reports from site residents and tenants indicate this includes both shift changeover periods, early morning and early evening, and the majority of daylight hours. Overt radar speed checks have not resulted in the significant safety issue being addressed.
Given the above, with effect from tomorrow it is intended to deploy the covert speed camera on a far more frequent basis on the main arterial roads on the site. In addition further overt radar speed checks will be conducted by site security at both shift changeover periods during the hours of darkness in an attempt to address the issue. All offending motorists will be managed in accordance with the Site Traffic Regulations.
They haven't even demonstrated that the site is an accident blackspot!!
Covert camera! The b
ds!!
It is becoming increasingly evident that motorists are speeding well in excess of the 30 mph speed limit on main arterial roads on the site, in particular on Broadway, Boundary Road North and Queens Avenue West. Both observations from site security staff and reports from site residents and tenants indicate this includes both shift changeover periods, early morning and early evening, and the majority of daylight hours. Overt radar speed checks have not resulted in the significant safety issue being addressed.
Given the above, with effect from tomorrow it is intended to deploy the covert speed camera on a far more frequent basis on the main arterial roads on the site. In addition further overt radar speed checks will be conducted by site security at both shift changeover periods during the hours of darkness in an attempt to address the issue. All offending motorists will be managed in accordance with the Site Traffic Regulations.
They haven't even demonstrated that the site is an accident blackspot!!
Covert camera! The b
ds!!Devil2575 said:
Just got an email at work
It is becoming increasingly evident that motorists are speeding well in excess of the 30 mph speed limit on main arterial roads on the site, in particular on Broadway, Boundary Road North and Queens Avenue West. Both observations from site security staff and reports from site residents and tenants indicate this includes both shift changeover periods, early morning and early evening, and the majority of daylight hours. Overt radar speed checks have not resulted in the significant safety issue being addressed.
Given the above, with effect from tomorrow it is intended to deploy the covert speed camera on a far more frequent basis on the main arterial roads on the site. In addition further overt radar speed checks will be conducted by site security at both shift changeover periods during the hours of darkness in an attempt to address the issue. All offending motorists will be managed in accordance with the Site Traffic Regulations.
They haven't even demonstrated that the site is an accident blackspot!!
Covert camera! The bds!!
This reads like all the roads are on the site, i.e. all private roads on private land. They can surely do as they please in that case?It is becoming increasingly evident that motorists are speeding well in excess of the 30 mph speed limit on main arterial roads on the site, in particular on Broadway, Boundary Road North and Queens Avenue West. Both observations from site security staff and reports from site residents and tenants indicate this includes both shift changeover periods, early morning and early evening, and the majority of daylight hours. Overt radar speed checks have not resulted in the significant safety issue being addressed.
Given the above, with effect from tomorrow it is intended to deploy the covert speed camera on a far more frequent basis on the main arterial roads on the site. In addition further overt radar speed checks will be conducted by site security at both shift changeover periods during the hours of darkness in an attempt to address the issue. All offending motorists will be managed in accordance with the Site Traffic Regulations.
They haven't even demonstrated that the site is an accident blackspot!!
Covert camera! The b
ds!!charltjr said:
All offending motorists will be managed in accordance with the Site Traffic Regulations.
Does that mean they give you a bit of a telling off?
At a certain site I worked at recently, you could be NRB'ed (Not Required Back.)Does that mean they give you a bit of a telling off?
This essentially meant you lost your job if your employer had nowhere else to send you.
AdeTuono said:
charltjr said:
All offending motorists will be managed in accordance with the Site Traffic Regulations.
Does that mean they give you a bit of a telling off?
At a certain site I worked at recently, you could be NRB'ed (Not Required Back.)Does that mean they give you a bit of a telling off?
This essentially meant you lost your job if your employer had nowhere else to send you.
On a site we used to work at it was 20mph limit, some guy decided to cain his scooby down the straight about 50mph (by eye) site staff come out and ripped up his card there and then and he was binned off.
These private sites can do what they like unfortunately.
Grunt Futtock said:
This reads like all the roads are on the site, i.e. all private roads on private land. They can surely do as they please in that case?
Yes, it's a private site so yes they can do as they please.It amused me because I could imagine the fuss that would be caused if covert speed cameras were put on public roads.
It's also interesting that despite there being no financial incentive to do this and there being no recorded fatalities or even serious injuries on site roads the site operator, pushed by the companies operating on the site, have chosen to go down the track of speed limit enforcement.
Edited by Devil2575 on Tuesday 22 November 16:22
AdeTuono said:
charltjr said:
All offending motorists will be managed in accordance with the Site Traffic Regulations.
Does that mean they give you a bit of a telling off?
At a certain site I worked at recently, you could be NRB'ed (Not Required Back.)Does that mean they give you a bit of a telling off?
This essentially meant you lost your job if your employer had nowhere else to send you.
768 said:
charltjr said:
All offending motorists will be managed in accordance with the Site Traffic Regulations.
Does that mean they give you a bit of a telling off?
Can be quite amusing when HR clashes with management over things like this.Does that mean they give you a bit of a telling off?
It's not a stick you can beat everyone with.
Devil2575 said:
It's also interesting that despite there being no financial incentive to do this and there being no recorded fatalities or even serious injuries on site roads the site operator, pushed by the companies operating on the site, have chosen to go down the track of speed limit enforcement.
It could be considered a gross breach of duty of care if the employer knew it's employees were driving in an unsafe manner, made no attempt to sort it out and then somebody was injured or killed. That's an incentive to keep a handle on site traffic.Edited by Devil2575 on Tuesday 22 November 16:22
Given those road names is it a government, nuclear or military site?
I used to work at a nuclear site in Berkshire and one of the main roads on site was a converted runway... very very tempting, but there was a speed limit on site that was pretty ruthlessly enforced by military police, and it was no laughing matter when you know it will result in immediate managerial escalation.
I used to work at a nuclear site in Berkshire and one of the main roads on site was a converted runway... very very tempting, but there was a speed limit on site that was pretty ruthlessly enforced by military police, and it was no laughing matter when you know it will result in immediate managerial escalation.
Edited by Ryvita on Tuesday 22 November 17:10
I really don't see an issue. If we took the OP attitude to Health & Safety we would have to wait until someone was seriously injured or killed before you did anything. If it is really that hard for you to keep to the speed limit? Then maybe you should walk/bike.
And yes I have been on many sites where 10MPH is the norm. Of course it is frustrating, but it's their rules, so I obey them. The alternative is ignore them and maybe hit some-one or something. Or maybe just get banned from site.
And yes I have been on many sites where 10MPH is the norm. Of course it is frustrating, but it's their rules, so I obey them. The alternative is ignore them and maybe hit some-one or something. Or maybe just get banned from site.
speedking31 said:
Have a vision that the site entrance is like the entrance to a F1 pit lane with cars caning it down the public highway then skidding down to 20 mph as they cross the threshold 
The speeding tends to be people leaving at the end of the day/shift. Site speed limit is 30 mph, and no, no one speeds to work
Ryvita said:
Given those road names is it a government, nuclear or military site?
I used to work at a nuclear site in Berkshire and one of the main roads on site was a converted runway... very very tempting, but there was a speed limit on site that was pretty ruthlessly enforced by military police, and it was no laughing matter when you know it will result in immediate managerial escalation.
None of those. It's a top tier COMAH site but chemical not nuclear.I used to work at a nuclear site in Berkshire and one of the main roads on site was a converted runway... very very tempting, but there was a speed limit on site that was pretty ruthlessly enforced by military police, and it was no laughing matter when you know it will result in immediate managerial escalation.
Edited by Ryvita on Tuesday 22 November 17:10
Drumroll said:
If we took the OP attitude to Health & Safety
You misunderstand my position on this. I am in complete agreement with you.The post was intended to highlight how private companies on private land view the issue of speed limit enforcement and compare that to how many people on PH view speed limit enforcement on the public roads.
There is no financial benefit to enforcing site speed limits yet they still do it. When the authorities try to enforce limits on public roads they get accused of only doing it to make money.
Devil2575 said:
You misunderstand my position on this. I am in complete agreement with you.
The post was intended to highlight how private companies on private land view the issue of speed limit enforcement and compare that to how many people on PH view speed limit enforcement on the public roads.
There is no financial benefit to enforcing site speed limits yet they still do it. When the authorities try to enforce limits on public roads they get accused of only doing it to make money.
The issue in this instance may be over-zealous H&S types. We recently had H&S install tyre ripper things to prevent people driving the wrong way in a works multistorey car park because they were worried people wouldn't be expecting cars from that direction. Fair enough. Except they installed the rippers in such a way that mechanically-sympathetic people (its an engineering firm so basically everyone) are now forced to drive up and down the (2-way) ramps on the wrong side of the road, which has led to multiple near misses and will result in a crash sooner or later.The post was intended to highlight how private companies on private land view the issue of speed limit enforcement and compare that to how many people on PH view speed limit enforcement on the public roads.
There is no financial benefit to enforcing site speed limits yet they still do it. When the authorities try to enforce limits on public roads they get accused of only doing it to make money.
Of course 50mph in a housing development is taking the piss so i can accept the h&s approach is sometimes justifiable.
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