Isn't this illegal?
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sorin1987

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155 posts

141 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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I've seen a lot of cars this winter so dirty that their rear license plate is unreadable. Isn't this illegal in UK? I got 2 PCN since I drive in the UK and both pictures were taken from the back.
I took this photo as an example

trickywoo

14,226 posts

260 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=147...


This bothers me much less than people parked on the wrong side of the road with headlights on.

Sump

5,512 posts

197 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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trickywoo said:
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=147...


This bothers me much less than people parked on the wrong side of the road with headlights on.
Right up until they hit you and drive off?

TurboHatchback

4,238 posts

183 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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Yes it's illegal but who's going to do anything about it? There are basically no traffic police any more and those that are left have the their hands full dealing with more serious stuff, all enforcement is done by cameras nowadays which is no good if they can't read your plate.

sorin1987

Original Poster:

155 posts

141 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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trickywoo said:
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=147...


This bothers me much less than people parked on the wrong side of the road with headlights on.
This actually bothers me because it's clearly intentional and they are getting out of a ticket this way.

robinessex

12,020 posts

211 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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sorin1987 said:
trickywoo said:
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=147...


This bothers me much less than people parked on the wrong side of the road with headlights on.
This actually bothers me because it's clearly intentional and they are getting out of a ticket this way.
Oh dear, have you only just realised !! Now you know why so many dirty cars exist !

esxste

4,292 posts

136 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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If you can get close enough to read the numberplate, note it down and report to 101. Maybe on a quiet day the plod will send a PCSO round to get him/her to clean it.

CaptainCosworth

6,920 posts

123 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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sorin1987 said:
trickywoo said:
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=147...


This bothers me much less than people parked on the wrong side of the road with headlights on.
This actually bothers me because it's clearly intentional and they are getting out of a ticket this way.
Most of the time I don't think it's intentional, it's just that people can't be bothered to clean their car, especially in winter. And they're too much of a numpty to consider giving the number plate and lights a bit of a wipe.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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CaptainCosworth said:
Most of the time I don't think it's intentional, it's just that people can't be bothered to clean their car, especially in winter. And they're too much of a numpty to consider giving the number plate and lights a bit of a wipe.
While that's absolutely true, manufacturers have to take some blame. It really wouldn't be hard to work the aerodynamics to keep the plate and lights from hoovering quite so much spray up quite so quickly. Many manage it, some are terrible.

eybic

9,212 posts

204 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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TooMany2cvs said:
CaptainCosworth said:
Most of the time I don't think it's intentional, it's just that people can't be bothered to clean their car, especially in winter. And they're too much of a numpty to consider giving the number plate and lights a bit of a wipe.
While that's absolutely true, manufacturers have to take some blame. It really wouldn't be hard to work the aerodynamics to keep the plate and lights from hoovering quite so much spray up quite so quickly. Many manage it, some are terrible.
VAG stuff seems bad for this, particularly Audis. I've seen quite a few A4/A6 with their rear plates obscured.

super7

2,266 posts

238 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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Yes this is illegal......

I got pulled on the M42, probably about 10yrs ago, due to the state of the number plate..... In my defence I had a 5hr daily commute from Chipping Norton to Kingswinford which was 90% back roads and the car was filthy 90% of the time.... The officers first comment was that the filthy number plate was on purpose and the sole reason that I had not cleaned it was to evade speed cameras. That's probably when I failed the attitude test and got a £30 ticket (no points!). I was then asked to clean the rear number plate on the hard shoulder of the motorway with my back to the oncoming traffic whilst they looked on....

Now, if the officers just asked me too ensure it was cleaned, let me clean it safely and then let me carry on, i'd be happy, even with a ticket! But, to be immediately accused of dodging speed camera's, that it was pre-meditated, and forced to clean it in one of the most dangerous places on the roads, then there is only one word for them........

Either way, learn't my lesson, number plate is now cleaned (if not the rest of the car!!)

Sheepshanks

41,183 posts

149 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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CaptainCosworth said:
Most of the time I don't think it's intentional, it's just that people can't be bothered to clean their car, especially in winter. And they're too much of a numpty to consider giving the number plate and lights a bit of a wipe.
I bet it never occurs to some people to look at the back of their cars.

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

263 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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Sheepshanks said:
CaptainCosworth said:
Most of the time I don't think it's intentional, it's just that people can't be bothered to clean their car, especially in winter. And they're too much of a numpty to consider giving the number plate and lights a bit of a wipe.
I bet it never occurs to some people to look at the back of their cars.
It never occurs to many people to look at their car's road worthiness at all.

Just before Christmas I went around the work car park and more than half the cars (20ish) had dirty lights, very low tread and in one case an almost flat tyre.

Spoke to the owners who work here and it transpires that half of them have no idea how to top up their screen wash, let alone that they need to clean the lights every few days this time of year or that they need to check the tread on their tyres every month or so, not when the MOT bloke says it's failed...

Good result though as a lot of happy people after i had cleaned their lights for them and now I have been asked in the Spring, when it is light after work, if i can do a 5pm 'Basic Car Maintenance' session with them to show them how to check washer fluid, tyre pressures/depth and all the other little things that you need to keep an eye on.

Also had to tell the office junior that you don't top up the oil only when the red light comes on as by that time it is usually too late...

Sheepshanks

41,183 posts

149 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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Rude-boy said:
It never occurs to many people to look at their car's road worthiness at all.

Just before Christmas I went around the work car park and more than half the cars (20ish) had dirty lights, very low tread and in one case an almost flat tyre.
My son-in-law turned up in his car (which was my wife's old car) over Christmas and hadn't noticed the (now rusting) scuff on the near-side. "I never go round that side" he said.

I did point out that if he parked it facing the right way it would help.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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Rude-boy said:
Good result though as a lot of happy people after i had cleaned their lights for them and now I have been asked in the Spring, when it is light after work, if i can do a 5pm 'Basic Car Maintenance' session with them to show them how to check washer fluid, tyre pressures/depth and all the other little things that you need to keep an eye on.
That's a bloody good result.

bitwrx

1,352 posts

234 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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TurboHatchback said:
Yes it's illegal but who's going to do anything about it? There are basically no traffic police any more and those that are left have the their hands full dealing with more serious stuff, all enforcement is done by cameras nowadays which is no good if they can't read your plate.
I saw someone who had been tugged yesterday on the A38 as I was heading out of Bristol. Hard to tell exactly what was going on, but the copper and he were looking intently at the very dirty back end of his car at about numberplate height...

Boosted LS1

21,200 posts

290 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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I can understand why reps who drive many miles through specs and speed traps are happy to let the plates get dirty. They're jobs are on the line. Also, they don't stop every 200 miles to check the plates clean, who would? Certainly not me.

Djtemeka

1,984 posts

222 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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Saw a Range Rover over Christmas with filthy rear. Couldn't read the plate even though I was a few meters away but the wired thing was that the lights were sparkling clean. Can't tell the officer that he forgot to clean the plate too 😁

Davidonly

1,080 posts

223 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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I really could not care less about my own or anyone else having a dirty number plate. I have cleaned the lights and ignored the plates myself. Never had any trouble.......my 120d hoovers every scrap of crud off the road and applies it to the plate.... Never drive the M3 in winter so not sure how it would look.

av185

20,464 posts

157 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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Yeah the M3 is probably the dirtiest motorway in the world.

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