Will This One Get Time Inside?
Will This One Get Time Inside?
Author
Discussion

jshell

Original Poster:

12,106 posts

235 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
quotequote all
Ignores warning signs, closes one of the UK's busiest routes and damages the bridge: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-38575843

Been charged with DD...

CAPP0

20,881 posts

233 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
quotequote all
The main time inside he will get will be watching TV whilst he looks for another job!

Report said:
It is understood one possibility currently being explored, if the winds don't ease, is to cut up the lorry and remove it section by section
yikes

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

153 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
quotequote all
This bloke must be the most hated man in central Scotland today, what a bloody moron.

CoolHands

23,566 posts

225 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
quotequote all
I hope not. No one was hurt were they?

Seems like a procedural problem to me - if the the wind is too high, why is a lorry allowed onto the bridge? That's their (management) fault.

KevinCamaroSS

13,843 posts

310 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
quotequote all
CoolHands said:
I hope not. No one was hurt were they?

Seems like a procedural problem to me - if the the wind is too high, why is a lorry allowed onto the bridge? That's their (management) fault.
Management company says bridge closed to HGVs. Other than signage what can they do? Road still open to cars etc.

CoolHands

23,566 posts

225 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
quotequote all
Well I'm not in the 'Bridge Businesss' which is clearly very technical. But I can think of a simple solution off the top of my head to prevent lorries accessing the bridge, but maybe I'm genius level IQ or something.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

285 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
quotequote all
CoolHands said:
Well I'm not in the 'Bridge Businesss' which is clearly very technical. But I can think of a simple solution off the top of my head to prevent lorries accessing the bridge, but maybe I'm genius level IQ or something.
They already have the simplest possible solution, the sign. Unfortunately it's effectiveness does depend on the assumption that the HGV driver can both read and isn't distracted at the time by e.g. watching porn or murdering prostitutes etc.

disastra98

121 posts

131 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
quotequote all
Surely the wind alone would be enough for any reasonable driver to think that the bridge might not be a good idea.
Cannot be the first high bridge he has encountered on a windy day.

andym1603

1,885 posts

202 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
quotequote all
Years ago when the wind got up they would pair the highsiders up to go across the bridge. The theory being that each would shelter/ support the other. Don't know why this does not happen now.

whoami

13,201 posts

270 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
quotequote all
BlackLabel said:
This bloke must be the most hated man in central Scotland today, what a bloody moron.
Deserves prison and the bill for the damage, recovery etc sent to his employer.

Iva Barchetta

44,044 posts

193 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
quotequote all
andym1603 said:
Years ago when the wind got up they would pair the highsiders up to go across the bridge. The theory being that each would shelter/ support the other. Don't know why this does not happen now.
Not even sure that works.

Driving over the Dartford bridge in high winds ,I've tried to shield myself next to much larger lorries.


Still blown around like a feather in a hurricane.

Nickyboy

6,825 posts

264 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
quotequote all
andym1603 said:
Years ago when the wind got up they would pair the highsiders up to go across the bridge. The theory being that each would shelter/ support the other. Don't know why this does not happen now.
Elf & Safety innit

andym1603

1,885 posts

202 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
quotequote all
Nickyboy said:
Elf & Safety innit
Probably the reason behind it. There is no way you could tip over if you could lean on somebody else.

AGK

1,605 posts

185 months

davepoth

29,395 posts

229 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
quotequote all
AGK said:
I'm not sure. A high hours community order is pretty close to prison, and this new offence is worse due to the size of the vehicle and all of the extra training the driver will have had.

GC8

19,910 posts

220 months

Thursday 12th January 2017
quotequote all
KevinCamaroSS said:
Management company says bridge closed to HGVs. Other than signage what can they do? Road still open to cars etc.
Closed to high sided vehicles, not to 'HGVs'. They appear to have removed the curtains and this is can be considered enough.

haggishunter

1,315 posts

273 months

Thursday 12th January 2017
quotequote all
GC8 said:
Closed to high sided vehicles, not to 'HGVs'. They appear to have removed the curtains and this is can be considered enough.
The curtains were closed when it tipped over.

AussieFozzy

136 posts

158 months

Thursday 12th January 2017
quotequote all
andym1603 said:
Years ago when the wind got up they would pair the highsiders up to go across the bridge. The theory being that each would shelter/ support the other. Don't know why this does not happen now.
This just sounds like a great way to have a multi vehicle accident instead...

primary colours

64 posts

209 months

Thursday 12th January 2017
quotequote all
Any HGV drivers on here that could offer an explanation? There were signs advising that the M62 was closed to HGV's (I believe HGV's not just 'High Sided Vehicles', but could be wrong) between J22 & J24 yesterday. The signs started a good 20 miles before the junctions but there were plenty (i.e. very close to normal volumes) of HGV's ignoring the warning and carrying on regardless. Also, would it not be possible just to station a police car and additional signage at the junction prior to the 'closure' to add a bit of enforcement rather than just assuming that all drivers would comply? If it's considered dangerous enough to close off the section then surely the potential risks of non-compliance would justify this?

jshell

Original Poster:

12,106 posts

235 months

Thursday 12th January 2017
quotequote all
primary colours said:
Any HGV drivers on here that could offer an explanation? There were signs advising that the M62 was closed to HGV's (I believe HGV's not just 'High Sided Vehicles', but could be wrong) between J22 & J24 yesterday. The signs started a good 20 miles before the junctions but there were plenty (i.e. very close to normal volumes) of HGV's ignoring the warning and carrying on regardless. Also, would it not be possible just to station a police car and additional signage at the junction prior to the 'closure' to add a bit of enforcement rather than just assuming that all drivers would comply? If it's considered dangerous enough to close off the section then surely the potential risks of non-compliance would justify this?
I've seen police cars stationed at the Forth Road Bridge in the past to stop HGV's ignoring the warnings.