is there a weight limit for your car?
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reading the other post about an overloaded van.
I sometimes do odd jobs where I have heavy(ish) equipment in my car, with the back seats down.
I've always works on the theory that you could actually get 5 big guys weighing perhaps 18 stone each in the car, and that the gear would never exceed that. Could you be pulled over therefore for having 5 big guys in your car (you included)
thats what, 5 x 18 = 90 stone, which is about 1000 pounds or just under half a ton.
add to that the posibility of luggage in the boot and even the roofrack.
( i remember a bib friend of mine who once pulled up a reliant robin with a double bed on the roofrack )
I sometimes do odd jobs where I have heavy(ish) equipment in my car, with the back seats down.
I've always works on the theory that you could actually get 5 big guys weighing perhaps 18 stone each in the car, and that the gear would never exceed that. Could you be pulled over therefore for having 5 big guys in your car (you included)
thats what, 5 x 18 = 90 stone, which is about 1000 pounds or just under half a ton.
add to that the posibility of luggage in the boot and even the roofrack.
( i remember a bib friend of mine who once pulled up a reliant robin with a double bed on the roofrack )
A motor car as such and as we know it does not, like a goods vehicle, have specific weights not to be exceeded.
But, all is not lost to BiB to deal with you Bryan, as under Reg 100 MV (Con and Use)Regs, 1986 states that a motor veh used on a road shall at all times be such that no danger is likely to be caused to any person in or on the vehicle or on a road by reason of:
manner passengers carried,or
number of passengers carried, or
condition or unsuitable purpose.
Did that later one to the driver of an estate laden to the gunnels with fencing posts and rails to such an extent tyres and suspension flattened and rubbing.
Lots of measurements and weighing of items to prove.
DVD
But, all is not lost to BiB to deal with you Bryan, as under Reg 100 MV (Con and Use)Regs, 1986 states that a motor veh used on a road shall at all times be such that no danger is likely to be caused to any person in or on the vehicle or on a road by reason of:
manner passengers carried,or
number of passengers carried, or
condition or unsuitable purpose.
Did that later one to the driver of an estate laden to the gunnels with fencing posts and rails to such an extent tyres and suspension flattened and rubbing.
Lots of measurements and weighing of items to prove.
DVD
parrot of doom said:Not even close. The 747-400 fuel weight (topped off) is 173,520Kg (216,902lt). At a burn rate of 10,230Kg/hr, 4,050Kg would only keep the aircraft in the air for just under 24 minutes - below 'minimums' I believe.
don't forget a full tank of fuel can be 4050kg etc.
Blimey, can you drive a 747 on the roads?
Streaky
bluepolarbear said:
I also beleive it will invalidate your insurance and hence driving without insurance charge can be placed. There was an article awhile ago around smaller cars and in particular the PT Cruiser who have a relatively low max weight and could be exceed with 5 burly gentlemen.
Not in relation to third party Insurance BPB.
See Section 148 (2) (b) (c) (d) Road Traffic Act 1988
dvd
bluepolarbear said:
and could be exceed with 5 burly gentlemen.
Speaking of 5 burly gentlemen.....
Years ago SO16 in the Met (Diplomatic Protection Group) used to use BL Princesses. These used to :ahem: come apart at the seams quite regularly. Basically their backs used to break due to bouncing up and down kerbs while loaded up with 5 tooled up plods.
[Michael Caine]
Not a lot of people know that.
[/Michael Caine]
>> Edited by Flat in Fifth on Friday 25th March 16:47
Just as a pointer to those who carry tools/furniture or any heavy items in an estate car/hatchback.
I once attended a fatal where the driver was killed following a fairly low(ish) speed impact. He was crushed by a full snap-on tool chest which wa in the back of his car. Rear seats and indeed the front seats will restrain very little force from behind.
I worked fror Ikea for a while, and the way some people load their cars is really scary.
Sorry to be morbid, but worth thinking about.
Steve
I once attended a fatal where the driver was killed following a fairly low(ish) speed impact. He was crushed by a full snap-on tool chest which wa in the back of his car. Rear seats and indeed the front seats will restrain very little force from behind.
I worked fror Ikea for a while, and the way some people load their cars is really scary.
Sorry to be morbid, but worth thinking about.
Steve
well, I have a number of flight cases, which sort of form a 'bulk head' if you like, in a line behind the front seats (with the back seats down), and these have the rear seat belts put round them.
I wonder if you can buy some sort of net, as the very fact that you can put the back seats down implies that you can put things in the back of the car.
interesting.
I wonder if you can buy some sort of net, as the very fact that you can put the back seats down implies that you can put things in the back of the car.
interesting.
towman said:
Just as a pointer to those who carry tools/furniture or any heavy items in an estate car/hatchback.
I once attended a fatal where the driver was killed following a fairly low(ish) speed impact. He was crushed by a full snap-on tool chest which wa in the back of his car. Rear seats and indeed the front seats will restrain very little force from behind.
I worked fror Ikea for a while, and the way some people load their cars is really scary.
Sorry to be morbid, but worth thinking about.
Steve
A handy tip with this is to keep the rear belts done up.
Something related on this topic :
On the V5 for my car it says the usual stuff about being a 5-seater. However, there are 2 3 point belts in the back but no centre belt. Can I legally carry a middle rear passenger? Seat isn't really conducive to that anyway as it's scuplted for 2.
Personally I never would carry a fifth without a belt even if they were happy with it.
The 'unladen weight' published for a vehicle already includes an allowance for 90% fuel quantity, a 68kg driver and 7kg of baggage. The vehicle will also have a 'maximum permissible gross vehicle weight'
Thus for my SLK, the unladen weight is 1405kg and the MGVW is 1665kg. Simple, you would think, that means that I can carry 260kg of 'stuff' in the car.
But there are other limits - the maximum boot load is 100kg and the maximum roof load is 50kg. There are also maximum permissible front and rear axle loads of 845 and 820kg respectively. Although how you are supposed to check those without a weighbridge I cannot imagine!
So, self plus favourite passenger plus a full tank of petrol means that the car would be 200kg below MGVW. However, I would only be permitted to carry 100kg in the boot; 50 kg could go on the roof but the other 50kg would have to go under lady friend's lovely little bottom or perhaps in the footwell!
The overloaded cars and white vans staggering back from French booze cruises do present a road safety hazard - which is perhaps far more serious than the loss of revenue to Fatty Brown!
>> Edited by nickwilcock on Sunday 27th March 10:00
Thus for my SLK, the unladen weight is 1405kg and the MGVW is 1665kg. Simple, you would think, that means that I can carry 260kg of 'stuff' in the car.
But there are other limits - the maximum boot load is 100kg and the maximum roof load is 50kg. There are also maximum permissible front and rear axle loads of 845 and 820kg respectively. Although how you are supposed to check those without a weighbridge I cannot imagine!
So, self plus favourite passenger plus a full tank of petrol means that the car would be 200kg below MGVW. However, I would only be permitted to carry 100kg in the boot; 50 kg could go on the roof but the other 50kg would have to go under lady friend's lovely little bottom or perhaps in the footwell!
The overloaded cars and white vans staggering back from French booze cruises do present a road safety hazard - which is perhaps far more serious than the loss of revenue to Fatty Brown!
>> Edited by nickwilcock on Sunday 27th March 10:00
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