Corrie McKeague investigation landfill site
Corrie McKeague investigation landfill site
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Fastpedeller

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4,341 posts

175 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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A tragic case, and thoughts with the family & friends. Am I the first to think the landfill search may pose more questions than it will solve? I can imagine there may be others found in addition to/possibly instead or Corrie.
Can't see a good outcome, apart from closure.

Sloan85

53 posts

165 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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Certainly is a strange case. From what I gather, it was known almost immediately that the only vehicle to leave the dead end he was seen walking into was the bin wagon. Why wasn't the landfill search done inmediately? Surely going to be hard, if not impossible, to find where that one wagon dropped its load at the landfill over 4 months ago.

tuffer

9,009 posts

296 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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I read early on that they discounted the landfill site due to the weight of the lorry. Must have a weigh bridge or something at the landfill and the Police said something like it could not have contained a body, or maybe the bin lorry weighed the bins. Anyway, I thought it seemed strange how they could be so certain. They have now arrested someone for perverting the course of justice and pointed out is is not the lorry driver, which seems strange.
Corrie is from my old Regiment so I have been following it closely.

lucido grigio

44,044 posts

192 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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I've read the load in the bin lorry weighed 15kg which is a bizarrely small amount.

Also that it was cardboard recycling ,so why did it go into landfill ?

So many questions !

KungFuPanda

4,639 posts

199 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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I've not really read anything about this until now.

So, judging by the BBC reporting, he was last seen walking into a loading bay area and it is impossible for anyone to leave without the CCTV cameras seeing. The only vehicle to leave is the bin lorry?

lucido grigio

44,044 posts

192 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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KungFuPanda said:
I've not really read anything about this until now.

So, judging by the BBC reporting, he was last seen walking into a loading bay area and it is impossible for anyone to leave without the CCTV cameras seeing. The only vehicle to leave is the bin lorry?
Yep,that is an easy summary.

tim0409

5,937 posts

188 months

Friday 3rd March 2017
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KungFuPanda

4,639 posts

199 months

Friday 3rd March 2017
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So what can our amateur sleuthing guess happened then?

Maybe the bin lorry ran over and killed the victim when he was in the loading bay area possibly drunk and asleep? The lad who has now been arrested was in control of dispatching vehicles. Maybe the bin lorry came back and the lad tampers with the record of the weight of the lorry when it arrives at the landfill allowing the driver of the bin lorry to dump the body there?

dacouch

1,172 posts

158 months

Friday 3rd March 2017
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If they're anything like the biffa drivers who collected from my old boss. It could be that they collected some waste from a company for £10 or £20 cash in their pocket and the weigh bridge adjusted the weight down to hide the extra

tuffer

9,009 posts

296 months

Friday 3rd March 2017
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My thoughts are. He had driven into town so wanted to sleep off the booze before driving back to camp. He either climbed into the cardboard bin to sleep or was maybe near the bins. Bin lorry came, crunch crunch crunch. Someone lied about weights. That has been my thought since the start and I cannot believe the Police have never searched the landfill despite the phone records showing that his phone went there.

KungFuPanda

4,639 posts

199 months

Tuesday 7th March 2017
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DJFish

6,017 posts

292 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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I know hindsight is a wonderful thing, but would it not have been prudent to send a cadaver/search dog to the landfill site for a sniff about just to properly eliminate that line of enquiry?

Durzel

12,999 posts

197 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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Would a search dog be able to find anything in landfill when the entire place would stink?

Why would a bin lorry carrying 11kg be going anywhere? Wouldn't it just be a waste of diesel to take such a small load to landfill?

herewego

8,814 posts

242 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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Durzel said:
Would a search dog be able to find anything in landfill when the entire place would stink?

Why would a bin lorry carrying 11kg be going anywhere? Wouldn't it just be a waste of diesel to take such a small load to landfill?
The lorry apparently weighs each bin. The figures given are for the individual bin(nett), not the lorry. Why he was loading cardboard into a landfill lorry I don't know.

imagineifyeswill

1,250 posts

195 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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I think I remember that the waste transfer station for sorting all the different waste was at the same location as the landfill.

Oi_Oi_Savaloy

2,315 posts

289 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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It's a very sad situation - really feel for the family - they've been saying, almost from the moment that the bin lorry was pinpointed - 'search the site!'.

I guess the police took the numbers (an extra 15kg) as absolute writ and decided against looking - even though it appears that having discounted all other options - it was the only logical thing to do. Great pity and I hope that they find him to put him to rest.

Sgt Bilko

1,929 posts

244 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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Failure of the ABC basics of investigations?
Assume nothing
Believe no one
Check everything

If the lad who had been nicked for perverting the course, had supplied the data. Did they check it? Analyse it?

littleredrooster

6,360 posts

225 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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Sorry, but to me it smacks of utter incompetence of the investigating force.

On CCTV, Corrie went into an area which was impossible to exit from without being seen. The bin lorry was the only other thing seen going in. His phone was then tracked via the exact route of the bin lorry to the tip.

Why the juddering fk did the Police not then search the tip immediately? Answer: Because someone at the waste company didn't know the difference between 'Number of bins' and 'Number of kilos'. Bin lorry did 11 collections, not 11 kilos. Did anyone check the weighbridge records? Apparently not until too late. frown

jayemm89

4,464 posts

159 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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Living in the area that he did, there are still signs up everywhere looking for him. Really a tragic case but as others have pointed out, some real oddities in the investigation. How the hell anyone mistakes 11kg for 110kg or whatever it was, I do not know.

What I do know, is that if he is found at the waste site the locals will be very upset as a large number were convinced he must have been kidnapped by local travellers.

Edited by jayemm89 on Wednesday 8th March 21:56

badboyburt

2,043 posts

206 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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The landfill has not been used since the young lad was reported missing, the waste has been diverted until the investigation is over.

The police knew they would eventually search it hence they ceased any further waste deposits on the land.