Named Driver - Rear Ended
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Pamoothican

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266 posts

122 months

Tuesday 7th March 2017
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Not sure if this is the right section for this, but here goes anyway.

I was rear ended this morning.

I was sat behind two cars at a red light, the light went to green and we move off. From the junction to the left a police car approaches with his blues and twos on. I slowed, nearly stopping to let the police car out and whammy!

Great timing from the chap behind, he had been tailgating me for a few miles too. We have both been breathalyzed and passed. We had to wait for the sergeant to come out as its classed as a police involved RTC. I was sent on my way but told that the other chap was being detained for a drugs test, slurring his speech apparently, and I may be contacted toady for a statement.

Nothing too bad, awful bang though, the car doesn't seem to need too much, maybe new bumper, as it has split. All the panel gaps seem fine and the boot opens and closes fine too.

What has got me a little confused is that I was driving my wife's car. I am a named driver on her policy, however I also have 3rd party cover on my own policy. I have all of the other chaps details and a pretty good witness. The question is, who's insurance do I need to inform, my own or my wife's?

HantsRat

2,409 posts

138 months

Tuesday 7th March 2017
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Either really but makes sense to do it via your wifes as that policy is actually on the vehicle.

JonV8V

8,185 posts

154 months

Tuesday 7th March 2017
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I'd claim on your wife's. If the scoat turns out not to be insured (even if he says he is) it's your wife's insurance test will pay (assuming it's fully comp).

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Tuesday 7th March 2017
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HantsRat said:
Either really but makes sense to do it via your wifes as that policy is actually on the vehicle.
<nods> I suspect that the DOC policy will say "Nope, there's a policy ahead of us in the queue", and refuse the claim.

TwigtheWonderkid

49,158 posts

180 months

Tuesday 7th March 2017
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TooMany2cvs said:
HantsRat said:
Either really but makes sense to do it via your wifes as that policy is actually on the vehicle.
<nods> I suspect that the DOC policy will say "Nope, there's a policy ahead of us in the queue", and refuse the claim.
Correct. DOC does not apply if they is a more specific policy in place. That'll be in your policy wording somewhere. DOC covers you tpo on a vehicle you are not otherwise covered to drive.

TooLateForAName

4,932 posts

214 months

Tuesday 7th March 2017
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Why not go straight to the other guys insurer.

You were rear ended and have a car full of police as witnesses and their client was detained. I'd imagine that should be very straightforward acceptance of responsibility.

KungFuPanda

4,642 posts

200 months

Tuesday 7th March 2017
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DOC won't cover your own damage anyway so it'll be just for notification purposes anyway.

As the previous ouster has said, try the TP insurer direct, they'll bend over backwards for you.

KevinCamaroSS

13,843 posts

310 months

Tuesday 7th March 2017
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TooMany2cvs said:
HantsRat said:
Either really but makes sense to do it via your wifes as that policy is actually on the vehicle.
<nods> I suspect that the DOC policy will say "Nope, there's a policy ahead of us in the queue", and refuse the claim.
Yet another jump in error TM2CVs. The OP is insured as a named driver on his wife's car, no one has mentioned DOC.

Magic919

14,542 posts

231 months

Tuesday 7th March 2017
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KevinCamaroSS said:
Yet another jump in error TM2CVs. The OP is insured as a named driver on his wife's car, no one has mentioned DOC.
Much as it pains me.

Pamoothican said:
I am a named driver on her policy, however I also have 3rd party cover on my own policy.

TwigtheWonderkid

49,158 posts

180 months

Tuesday 7th March 2017
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KevinCamaroSS said:
Yet another jump in error TM2CVs. The OP is insured as a named driver on his wife's car, no one has mentioned DOC.
confused

The whole point of this thread is the OP asking if he claims on wife's insurance of his own DOC extension.....isn't it??

Blue Oval84

5,396 posts

191 months

Tuesday 7th March 2017
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Your own policy doesn't cover any damage to your wife's car, so pointless to try claiming on that now (although you will need to notify at some stage).

I'd be approaching the insurer of the guy who hit you directly, in my experience they will bend over backwards to help you and give hire cars etc.

KungFuPanda

4,642 posts

200 months

Tuesday 7th March 2017
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
KevinCamaroSS said:
Yet another jump in error TM2CVs. The OP is insured as a named driver on his wife's car, no one has mentioned DOC.
confused

The whole point of this thread is the OP asking if he claims on wife's insurance of his own DOC extension.....isn't it??
He didn't ask who he claims off, he asked who he needed to inform. As I've said earlier, you can't claim from your DOC provider as they only provide cover for third party liabilities and not your own damage.

TwigtheWonderkid

49,158 posts

180 months

Tuesday 7th March 2017
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KungFuPanda said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
KevinCamaroSS said:
Yet another jump in error TM2CVs. The OP is insured as a named driver on his wife's car, no one has mentioned DOC.
confused

The whole point of this thread is the OP asking if he claims on wife's insurance of his own DOC extension.....isn't it??
He didn't ask who he claims off, he asked who he needed to inform. As I've said earlier, you can't claim from your DOC provider as they only provide cover for third party liabilities and not your own damage.
For all we know his wife's policy might also be third party. He doesn't say.

SS2.

14,712 posts

268 months

Tuesday 7th March 2017
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Pamoothican said:
The question is, who's insurance do I need to inform, my own or my wife's?
My immediate thought was:

1) Notify your wife's insurer now that the insured vehicle has been involved in an accident;

2) Notify your insurer at renewal that you have been involved in an accident;

If in doubt as to what should be declared and when, check the wording of the policies.

Soov330e

35,829 posts

301 months

Tuesday 7th March 2017
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SS2. said:
Pamoothican said:
The question is, who's insurance do I need to inform, my own or my wife's?
My immediate thought was:

1) Notify your wife's insurer now that the insured vehicle has been involved in an accident;

2) Notify your insurer at renewal that you have been involved in an accident;

If in doubt as to what should be declared and when, check the wording of the policies.
100%

Pamoothican

Original Poster:

266 posts

122 months

Tuesday 7th March 2017
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Thanks for the replies. Sorry missed a bit out. I'm named driver on my wife's policy, with fully comp

The wife's insurance have been all over this like a tramp on chips! Courtesy cars, garages, repairs, personal injury etc. But the other chaps insurance have just rang and said I'm better off letting them deal with it as it won't be classed as a clam. They said if I still have the car I can let my wife's insurance know that I'm using the other party's insurance, and that I'm just informing them of the accident.

Next question, who's trying it on, whos going to be the better choice.

After looking at the car this afternoon, I'm not so sure about its condition, boot won't close without a good slam and is dented along the bottom edge,, the bumper is ruined (parking sensors too) and the lights look like they have been pushed in. On a £4-5k 10 year old Car that is quite rare, low mileage and just had £350 spent on MOT service and a few new parts on Friday!





Edited by Pamoothican on Tuesday 7th March 21:03

anniesdad

14,589 posts

268 months

Tuesday 7th March 2017
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Pamoothican said:
Thanks for the replies. Sorry missed a bit out. I'm named driver on my wife's policy, with fully comp

The wife's insurance have been all over this like a tramp on chips! Courtesy cars, garages, repairs, personal injury etc. But the other chaps insurance have just rang and said I'm better off letting them deal with it as it won't be classed as a clam. They said if I still have the car I can let my wife's insurance know that I'm using the other party's insurance, and that I'm just informing them of the accident.

Next question, who's trying it on, whos going to be the better choice.

After looking at the car this afternoon, I'm not so sure about its condition, boot won't close without a good slam and is dented along the bottom edge,, the bumper is ruined (parking sensors too) and the lights look like they have been pushed in. On a £4-5k 10 year old Car that is quite rare, low mileage and just had £350 spent on MOT service and a few new parts on Friday!





Edited by Pamoothican on Tuesday 7th March 21:03
Out of the two options my advice would be to let your wife's insurance company (more likely their preferred accident management company) drive the claim. The third party insurers will probably want you to use their approved repairer who is probably being paid a pittance to repair your car and you are not contractually connected to them.

If your car is a write off (which doesn't sound like it is) then best to get an independent engineer to inspect your car to put a value on it.

Make sure that you pick the repairing garage.

mickthemechanic

329 posts

136 months

Tuesday 7th March 2017
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anniesdad said:
Out of the two options my advice would be to let your wife's insurance company (more likely their preferred accident management company) drive the claim. The third party insurers will probably want you to use their approved repairer who is probably being paid a pittance to repair your car
Hi

Genuine question would what you have said apply both ways regarding what repairers are being paid. If the op was the one who rear ended someone would the same not apply

anniesdad

14,589 posts

268 months

Tuesday 7th March 2017
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mickthemechanic said:
Hi

Genuine question would what you have said apply both ways regarding what repairers are being paid. If the op was the one who rear ended someone would the same not apply
Sure, that's why I added "make sure you choose the repairing garage". Just tell the comp insurers who you want to use and leave it up to them to authorise the repairs.

The reason I say better to let own insurers authorise repairs is they are less likely to argue (too much) the repair costs with the repairers as they are likely to get the full cost of repair back from the at-fault insurer anyway. Better for the OP that his chosen repairers get a decent days pay for a decent days work.

Edited by anniesdad on Tuesday 7th March 22:39

Blue Oval84

5,396 posts

191 months

Tuesday 7th March 2017
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Is it your wife's insurers dealing with it or an AMC that they have referred you to?