Could you actually get into trouble
Could you actually get into trouble
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dieseluser07

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2,452 posts

146 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
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Hypothetical situation, i have a feeling most cops would pull you over but i cant see them having an official grounds too.

Lets say a police car was following you for 10 miles on a mix of roads, on every one of them you stuck to the speed limit and drove safe, but everytime the speed limit went from 30-50 or 50-70 or 30-70, you floored it (front wheel drive fast car but no loss of traction, just clean fast acceleration, no traffic anywhere near you), do you think you would be pulled up.

And if so could they really class it as dangerous driving

Krikkit

27,938 posts

211 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
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Assuming you don't break traction, and the roads are clear, why would they?

BigLion

1,497 posts

129 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
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Krikkit said:
Assuming you don't break traction, and the roads are clear, why would they?
Some clown cops would probably interpret it as 'dangerous driving'

DS197

992 posts

136 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
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BigLion said:
Some clown cops would probably interpret it as 'dangerous driving'
This. They could stop you if they wanted to. Plenty of threads on here: http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=123...

dieseluser07

Original Poster:

2,452 posts

146 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
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Krikkit said:
Assuming you don't break traction, and the roads are clear, why would they?
Because you pull away at a rapid rate

dci

660 posts

171 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
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dieseluser07 said:
Hypothetical situation, i have a feeling most cops would pull you over but i cant see them having an official grounds too.

Lets say a police car was following you for 10 miles on a mix of roads, on every one of them you stuck to the speed limit and drove safe, but everytime the speed limit went from 30-50 or 50-70 or 30-70, you floored it (front wheel drive fast car but no loss of traction, just clean fast acceleration, no traffic anywhere near you), do you think you would be pulled up.

And if so could they really class it as dangerous driving
A mate in uni got done for dangerous driving a few years back for similar. He floored it from a crawl overtaking a parked bus up to about 40 mph in his Corsa VXR. Non liveried cop car behind him didn't like it and pulled him for it.

I did however only hear one side of the story, he could have performed the overtake dangerously and deserved his dangerous driving charge.

anonymous-user

84 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
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Depends on the situation, providing it's clear and safe then no reason why you'd get a tug, I've done it lots on bikes and in cars without issue.

Young lad in a Corsa VXR flooring it round a bus in a built up area would be begging for a tug though.

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah

13,240 posts

130 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
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The police, contrary to what many think, do use discretion to decide who they pull over. IF you were giving it full beans every time a limit increased they would possibly wonder what you were playing at and have a word with you. I'd wonder what you were trying to achieve.

One recent Sunday lunch at my olds they had a copper friend over. Knowing him fairly well, I asked him about an overtake I'd taken on the way over, 60 limit. Came out of a corner on to a (probable) 300 metre straight, which gave the opportunity to pass two slow moving trucks in front of me. I gave it the beans, and as I pulled in I glanced at the (LCD display) speedo to see it read 86mph. I asked him, purely out of interest to see if they would be pedantry, if he'd been behind me if he'd tug me. He responded 'why would I, you were briefly speeding to minimise your time exposed to danger.'

Coppers usually have reason behind their decisions. Give them a reason and you'll be having a chat with them.

ashleyman

7,284 posts

129 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
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I wouldn't think so but I'd be sensible about it.

I wouldn't use launch control in my car with a Police car anywhere near me as it's asking for trouble. Would I accelerate hard away from a set of lights? Of course and I have done so without reproach even when a Police car was right next to me, in fact at the next set of lights after I'd had my fun I got a nod from the driver.

I remember Surrey Police responding to a question on Twitter wether it was illegal to accelerate from traffic lights quickly, the response was 'No, you can go as fast as you like as long as you stop at the speed limit' or something like that.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

285 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
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dieseluser07 said:
Krikkit said:
Assuming you don't break traction, and the roads are clear, why would they?
Because you pull away at a rapid rate
Don't say that, it makes me shudder. I nearly weed....close run thing



HustleRussell

26,577 posts

190 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
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They might decide your driving looks erratic. If you draw their attention they could choose to pull you over for a chat just to check you're not under the influence etc.

anonymous-user

84 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
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BigLion said:
Krikkit said:
Assuming you don't break traction, and the roads are clear, why would they?
Some clown cops would probably interpret it as 'dangerous driving'
Would they? Are there many prosecutions for dangerous driving for accelerating quickly to the limit without breaking traction?

zarjaz1991

6,868 posts

153 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:
The police, contrary to what many think, do use discretion to decide who they pull over. IF you were giving it full beans every time a limit increased they would possibly wonder what you were playing at and have a word with you. I'd wonder what you were trying to achieve.

One recent Sunday lunch at my olds they had a copper friend over. Knowing him fairly well, I asked him about an overtake I'd taken on the way over, 60 limit. Came out of a corner on to a (probable) 300 metre straight, which gave the opportunity to pass two slow moving trucks in front of me. I gave it the beans, and as I pulled in I glanced at the (LCD display) speedo to see it read 86mph. I asked him, purely out of interest to see if they would be pedantry, if he'd been behind me if he'd tug me. He responded 'why would I, you were briefly speeding to minimise your time exposed to danger.'

Coppers usually have reason behind their decisions. Give them a reason and you'll be having a chat with them.
I would certainly never, ever admit to a copper - even an off duty one - that I'd done 86.

Darwin award job that.

zarjaz1991

6,868 posts

153 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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La Liga said:
ould they? Are there many prosecutions for dangerous driving for accelerating quickly to the limit without breaking traction?
Based on my experiences, if a copper tells a court you did it, then you did it.

They can even threaten you on the way out for good measure.

whoami

13,201 posts

270 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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hehe

thelawnet1

1,539 posts

185 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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I think it could be deemed reckless.

E.g., if you accelerate from a stop to 40mph on a 40mph road with a pelican crossing across it.

40mph is fine there but as a part of a stream of traffic - if the road is clear then pedestrians often cross even if there is no man.

zarjaz1991

6,868 posts

153 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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thelawnet1 said:
I think it could be deemed reckless.

E.g., if you accelerate from a stop to 40mph on a 40mph road with a pelican crossing across it.

40mph is fine there but as a part of a stream of traffic - if the road is clear then pedestrians often cross even if there is no man.
There's no offence of reckless driving any more.

XCP

17,719 posts

258 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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zarjaz1991 said:
I would certainly never, ever admit to a copper - even an off duty one - that I'd done 86.

Darwin award job that.
I have never met a copper who would give a toss about some claimed speed some bloke claimed to have driven at, whilst off duty. In fact, the most boring topic to an off duty copper is probably speeding. Closely followed by 'did you know so and so? he was my uncles grandads half brother. He retired in 1947?'

Retroman

975 posts

163 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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I've noticed that if someone pulls away in front of the police rapidly, in a standard quiet car they barely bat an eye.

Put pull away slower, in a car with an induction kit so although it's slower ir sounds quick and they'll often pull you for a word at least.

Likewise i've had members of the public tell me to slow down just from induction noise because it creates the illusion to a lot of regular people you're driving nuts.

Dave Hedgehog

16,353 posts

234 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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there is a very open ended offence which basically translates as driving in a manner the BiB deam requires some points

its not used very often, cant recall the actual offence name