Gatso Question
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NDA

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25,667 posts

255 months

Sunday 25th June 2017
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I was driving at 30mph in a 40mph limit past a speed camera I know well (on my side of the road and with road markings for the camera on my side only).... a motorcyclist coming the other way was accelerating hard and passed me at around 70mph. The camera flashed just while I was on the markings.

Should I be worried?

lucido grigio

44,044 posts

193 months

Sunday 25th June 2017
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no.

Joe5y

1,638 posts

213 months

Sunday 25th June 2017
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Yes

tumble dryer

2,388 posts

157 months

Sunday 25th June 2017
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Maybe.


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MockingJay

1,314 posts

159 months

Sunday 25th June 2017
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Maybe

tumble dryer

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157 months

Sunday 25th June 2017
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(But really, no.)

Joe5y

1,638 posts

213 months

Sunday 25th June 2017
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tumble dryer said:
(But really, no.)
This

threespires

4,466 posts

241 months

Sunday 25th June 2017
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Don't they take more than one photo when triggered?

NDA

Original Poster:

25,667 posts

255 months

Sunday 25th June 2017
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This is so helpful.

Thanks

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bilhound

79 posts

116 months

Monday 26th June 2017
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The markings are there to show speed/distance/time. If you were truly going at 30mph then you have nothing to worry about as the piccies of your car going over the markings will prove as such. It may take a couple of back and forths but I'd say you'll be fine once you have a chance to explain it.

Hard to imagine though - Mr Motorcyclist must've passed you very closely at 70mph in order to trigger the camera (which is triggered by the black patches slightly before the markings) and then go around you.

In the first instance I'd just ignore it - don't chase it.

scorcher

4,128 posts

264 months

Monday 26th June 2017
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bilhound said:
The markings are there to show speed/distance/time. If you were truly going at 30mph then you have nothing to worry about as the piccies of your car going over the markings will prove as such. It may take a couple of back and forths but I'd say you'll be fine once you have a chance to explain it.

Hard to imagine though - Mr Motorcyclist must've passed you very closely at 70mph in order to trigger the camera (which is triggered by the black patches slightly before the markings) and then go around you.

In the first instance I'd just ignore it - don't chase it.
Motorcyclist was going in opposite direction towards camera.

bilhound

79 posts

116 months

Monday 26th June 2017
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scorcher said:
Motorcyclist was going in opposite direction towards camera.
Ah so he was, apologies. In that case, it's strange that he set off your camera? In any case, the markings will tell all.

covboy

2,593 posts

204 months

Monday 26th June 2017
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bilhound said:
in order to trigger the camera (which is triggered by the black patches slightly before the markings) .
??

Halmyre

12,618 posts

169 months

Monday 26th June 2017
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bilhound said:
scorcher said:
Motorcyclist was going in opposite direction towards camera.
Ah so he was, apologies. In that case, it's strange that he set off your camera? In any case, the markings will tell all.
You can trigger a Gatso from either direction, there's one on my commute home that I have, ahem, seen other people, set off. Luckily (for them of course) you can't prosecute for such infringements.

bilhound

79 posts

116 months

Monday 26th June 2017
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Halmyre said:
You can trigger a Gatso from either direction, there's one on my commute home that I have, ahem, seen other people, set off. Luckily (for them of course) you can't prosecute for such infringements.
Gatso's are rear facing only, the motorcyclist is unlikely to have set it off. It could be another brand of camera, or a bird, or just the camera flashing for no reason (which does sometimes happen).

As I said, in any case, the markings will tell all.

bilhound

79 posts

116 months

Monday 26th June 2017
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covboy said:
bilhound said:
in order to trigger the camera (which is triggered by the black patches slightly before the markings) .
??
Some cameras have black patches in the road bed itself that are the initial speed measurement, they look a bit like the sensors before barriers/traffic lights. The camera then takes a series of pictures of your vehicle over the white painted markings as the secondary measurement necessary for a conviction. In fact all speeding offences technically require two measurements. Even a PC with a speed gun has to 'estimate' your speed to be over and above the limit (first measurement) before pointing the laser at you to get an accurate reading (second measurement).

covboy

2,593 posts

204 months

Monday 26th June 2017
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bilhound said:
Some cameras have black patches in the road bed itself that are the initial speed measurement, they look a bit like the sensors before barriers/traffic lights. The camera then takes a series of pictures of your vehicle over the white painted markings as the secondary measurement necessary for a conviction. In fact all speeding offences technically require two measurements. Even a PC with a speed gun has to 'estimate' your speed to be over and above the limit (first measurement) before pointing the laser at you to get an accurate reading (second measurement).
Are you talking Gatso or Truvelo - Different animals

bilhound

79 posts

116 months

Monday 26th June 2017
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covboy said:
You CAN trigger GATSO from either direction but they are only authorised for vehicles traveling away
I was under the impression that they are rear facing so as not to blind the driver, being able to set them off both ways negates that point. Happy to concede though if you have experienced it yourself - and you intimidated me with shouty capital letters.

bilhound

79 posts

116 months

Monday 26th June 2017
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covboy said:
Are you talking Gatso or Tuvelo - Different animals
The black patches - must be the tuvelo ones you mention?

SS2.

14,712 posts

268 months

Monday 26th June 2017
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bilhound said:
I was under the impression that they are rear facing so as not to blind the driver, being able to set them off both ways negates that point
In the UK, Gatso Type 24 units are approved for rear facing use only, although the control modules can be configured to detect approaching traffic, receding traffic or both.