Standard response?
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I was pulled over last night near West Ham. I knew there was a police car a few cars back when I got off from the lights a bit sharpish (but only upto the 30mph limit). Anyway, I obviously caught their attention, and they set about passing a couple of cars to get on my bumper. I was clearly doing nothing wrong, so when they got bored they pulled me over. Everything was in order, so after a little chat they let me go after giving the excuse of "there has been one of these stolen in the area, so we were just checking" .... now is this just a standard police line once they have pulled someone for no real reason, or do you think a similar car had actually gone missing nearby?
oh, and it was actually quite a nice feeling to have been pulled over knowing that I had not been doing anything wrong!!
oh, and it was actually quite a nice feeling to have been pulled over knowing that I had not been doing anything wrong!!
gone said:
Grow up!
Your first paragraph gave the reason which you undoubtedly knew about as otherwise you would not have posted it here!
Would you have passed your driving test with that start from the junction?
come on chap lighten up! had a particularly hard day today?
he's just messing!
gone said:
Grow up!
Your first paragraph gave the reason which you undoubtedly knew about as otherwise you would not have posted it here!
Would you have passed your driving test with that start from the junction?
Lighten up, gone! Do you stop everyone who accelerates a little sharply from a junction?
If I had done it on my driving test, I doubt the examiner would have noticed: it was a 1.1 litre 205.
>> Edited by Zod on Tuesday 5th April 21:36
jolley said:
"there has been one of these stolen in the area, so we were just checking" .... now is this just a standard police line once they have pulled someone for no real reason
From my personal experience, yes it is a standard line.
I live in an area which is known for it's high proportion of Probationer Constables. About 2 weeks after I bought my Leon Cupra R (about 2 years ago, when they were still pretty rare) I was tootling along doing about 35 in a 40 limit, when a beat car goes past the other way.
About 30 seconds later, there he was, passing two cars behind me with all lights ablaze. I slow and pull into the nearside, and they pull alongside and signal me to pull over.
They both get out and start to speak to me.
(Paraphrasing somewhat here....)
Officer 1 (About early 20s, I would say): "Nice car"
Officer 2 (Nearer 30): "They say this is the 'new Impreza beater', don't they?"
Me: "Anything wrong officers?"
Officer 1: "Erm, one of these has been stolen recently round here"
Me: "Oh? Where abouts?"
Officer 2: "Oh, er, um, in village where I live"
Me: "Oh, really....?"
Now, if there was another one of these in the village, I would certainly have been aware of it, as its only very small, and mine was, at that time, "The only R in the village..."
To be honest, it was painfully apparant to me that they simply wanted to stop and have a look at the car, as they hadn't seen one before, and not for anything I had actually done....
Alice Cupra said:
"there has been one of these stolen in the area, so we were just checking" .... now is this just a standard police line once they have pulled someone for no real reason
From my personal experience, yes it is a standard line.
I live in an area which is known for it's high proportion of Probationer Constables. About 2 weeks after I bought my Leon Cupra R (about 2 years ago, when they were still pretty rare) I was tootling along doing about 35 in a 40 limit, when a beat car goes past the other way.
About 30 seconds later, there he was, passing two cars behind me with all lights ablaze. I slow and pull into the nearside, and they pull alongside and signal me to pull over.
They both get out and start to speak to me.
(Paraphrasing somewhat here....)
Officer 1 (About early 20s, I would say): "Nice car"
Officer 2 (Nearer 30): "They say this is the 'new Impreza beater', don't they?"
Me: "Anything wrong officers?"
Officer 1: "Erm, one of these has been stolen recently round here"
Me: "Oh? Where abouts?"
Officer 2: "Oh, er, um, in village where I live"
Me: "Oh, really....?"
Now, if there was another one of these in the village, I would certainly have been aware of it, as its only very small, and mine was, at that time, "The only R in the village..."
To be honest, it was painfully apparant to me that they simply wanted to stop and have a look at the car, as they hadn't seen one before, and not for anything I had actually done....
So what? They can request any car to stop at any time. You might build up a rapport with them and next time they see you giving it a bit of right foot you might just get a tug and a chat rather than a tug and a ticket.
I've never been stopped by a TrafPol who was genuinely enthused by my car (and I've had some nice cars) - Don't see a problem with it.
gone said:
Grow up!
Your first paragraph gave the reason which you undoubtedly knew about as otherwise you would not have posted it here!
Would you have passed your driving test with that start from the junction?
Oh come on Steve!
He took off from the lights 'a bit sharpish' which might only mean a bit of brisk acceleration. What's wrong with that?
It doesn't sound like the sort of start one might normally expect from a test candidate, but I don't see why it should be seen as detrimental.
Best wishes all,
Dave.
TripleS said:
Grow up!
Your first paragraph gave the reason which you undoubtedly knew about as otherwise you would not have posted it here!
Would you have passed your driving test with that start from the junction?
Oh come on Steve!
He took off from the lights 'a bit sharpish' which might only mean a bit of brisk acceleration. What's wrong with that?
It doesn't sound like the sort of start one might normally expect from a test candidate, but I don't see why it should be seen as detrimental.
Best wishes all,
Dave.
Hello Dave - Long time no hear. I trust you are well.
You'll not be suprised to learn that I agree with you on this point. As long as he was in full control of the vehicle and he did not exceed the speed limit, then no offence has been committed.
I have an acquaintence who is a bobby and he used to take great pleasure in telling me of the time he would pull people over and give them unnecessary stick. I patiently explained to him that every single time any of those people had a further experience with a Police Officer they would remember him and his unnecessary attitude. He, of course, knows best because he is a policeman (19 year old).
Fortunatly, he appears to have stopped being so silly now.
Sorry, I didn't mean to upset/provoke anyone. I was simply asking the police folk on here if it was just a standard comment to explain the tug, or if it were likely a car had been stolen.
I know perfectly well why they became interested in me, and provided the comment in defence of the policemen that stopped me (so that people did not start abusing the police for "not spending their time more constructively investigating proper crime").
I had no problem with them pulling me over, and I was as helpful as I could be. As said, they may see me again, and at least now they know me.
I know perfectly well why they became interested in me, and provided the comment in defence of the policemen that stopped me (so that people did not start abusing the police for "not spending their time more constructively investigating proper crime").
I had no problem with them pulling me over, and I was as helpful as I could be. As said, they may see me again, and at least now they know me.
It is something of standard line, albeit often used quite legitimately. E.g. stopping Fords/Vauxhall of a certain age in certain area. Stats show that these are forever being nicked.
Bottom line is, if your car had been stolen, wouldn't you want the Police to pull similar models to check them out?
Bottom line is, if your car had been stolen, wouldn't you want the Police to pull similar models to check them out?
TripleS said:
gone said:
Grow up!
Your first paragraph gave the reason which you undoubtedly knew about as otherwise you would not have posted it here!
Would you have passed your driving test with that start from the junction?
Oh come on Steve!
He took off from the lights 'a bit sharpish' which might only mean a bit of brisk acceleration. What's wrong with that?
I am not questioning the rights and wrongs of what he did.
He asked a question about why he was stopped and if he did anything wrong. If he had done everything right, in all probability he would not have been stopped.
He drew attention to himself having noticed the presence of authority. For that he needs to grow up!
I gave an answer and an opinion. That is all!
>> Edited by gone on Tuesday 5th April 23:15
gone said:
He asked a question about why he was stopped.
He drew attention to himself having noticed the presence of authority. For that he needs to grow up!
Sorry, no I didn't. As I have tried to explain in my second post, I was asking about the response (hence title). I know, and perfectly accept (again stated in my second post) why I was stopped.
I can understand the misunderstanding though (can you say that?!), and I harbour no ill feeling toward you Gone.
xxplod said:
Bottom line is, if your car had been stolen, wouldn't you want the Police to pull similar models to check them out?
Definitely.Alice Cupra said:
To be honest, it was painfully apparant to me that they simply wanted to stop and have a look at the car, as they hadn't seen one before, and not for anything I had actually done....
Then great!
I reember my Dad being pulled on the M58 back in the 70's when he had a Fiat 124 Special T (think Lada body style but Oh, what an engine! - Shame about the rust!) and he knew he'd been pulled coz the Trafpol couldn't understand something of that shape going so fast!
They pulled him, had a chat about the car, said "take it a bit easier in future Sir" and everyone went on their way.
Now isn't that what we actually want? Or would you (as in PHers not the OP) prefer it to be done purely by cameras?
Replace every Gatso with a Trafpol & I'll be quite happy.
>> Edited by Pot Bellied Fool on Wednesday 6th April 02:03
Ah! but that response doesn't bring in revenue. The likes of Mary Williams of Brake and her ilk 
at T2000 has a lot to answer for in argueing for what has become the scrapping of the Trafpol, and the "privatisation" of road policing which recognises only profit. The greater the profit, the better it is working. Yeah! right!
Well Bloody done Mary! Now all the Drunks, Drugged, Stupid, Dangerous, unlicenced, Joy Riders, etc, are free to roam because there are no Trafpol and the "Cameras" which you argued for, can't recognise them. No wonder accidents and deaths have gone up, listening to you. I hope you can sleep at night thinking of all those added deaths for which you are responsible.
Tell me,Were you "used" do you think? or is it what you planned? God preserve us from the likes of you. What you know about road safety can be put in a thimble.
Oh! and BTW, Still.............. No points!
>> Edited by 8Pack on Wednesday 6th April 04:26
at T2000 has a lot to answer for in argueing for what has become the scrapping of the Trafpol, and the "privatisation" of road policing which recognises only profit. The greater the profit, the better it is working. Yeah! right! Well Bloody done Mary! Now all the Drunks, Drugged, Stupid, Dangerous, unlicenced, Joy Riders, etc, are free to roam because there are no Trafpol and the "Cameras" which you argued for, can't recognise them. No wonder accidents and deaths have gone up, listening to you. I hope you can sleep at night thinking of all those added deaths for which you are responsible.
Tell me,Were you "used" do you think? or is it what you planned? God preserve us from the likes of you. What you know about road safety can be put in a thimble.
Oh! and BTW, Still.............. No points!
>> Edited by 8Pack on Wednesday 6th April 04:26
8Pack said:Which is, of course, why a huge increase in ANPR cameras (including static ones) is mooted - Streaky
Ah! but that response doesn't bring in revenue. The likes of Mary Williams of Brake and her ilk
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Now all the Drunks, Drugged, Stupid, Dangerous, unlicenced, Joy Riders, etc, are free to roam because there are no Trafpol and the "Cameras" which you argued for, can't recognise them.
jolley said:
Excuse my ignorance, but what is an ANPR camera?
Automatic Number Plate Recognition - reads the number plate and compares it to a database. Used by everyone from Police, Highway Authority, Scamers and Private Companies to gain access to their car parks or Petrol stations to record drive aways.
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