Driving License Error??
Discussion
So 
Me and the OH were renewing our driving licences after moving into a new home. I looked at mine and compared it to his to find that I have different 'licences',
On his he had the basic B with pass dates and AM subject to the 122 CBT pass, my licence has both of them also... But it has a B1 pass, and more unusually a full A license restricted to tricycles only
I passed my test in 2012 when i was 18, OH passed less than two years ago. Was is standard to have this licence info on the back in 2012 and has recently changed or has some plonker at the DVLA thought "f*** it, he's getting more than he bargained for"?
p.s Only done B test?
Me and the OH were renewing our driving licences after moving into a new home. I looked at mine and compared it to his to find that I have different 'licences',
On his he had the basic B with pass dates and AM subject to the 122 CBT pass, my licence has both of them also... But it has a B1 pass, and more unusually a full A license restricted to tricycles only
I passed my test in 2012 when i was 18, OH passed less than two years ago. Was is standard to have this licence info on the back in 2012 and has recently changed or has some plonker at the DVLA thought "f*** it, he's getting more than he bargained for"?
p.s Only done B test?
Are you under 24? There are age restrictions on some of those categories.
Have a look at https://www.gov.uk/guidance/changes-to-the-driving...
Have a look at https://www.gov.uk/guidance/changes-to-the-driving...
DVLA said:
A A motorcycle of a power exceeding 35kW or with a power to weight ratio exceeding 0.2kW per kg, or A motorcycle of a power not exceeding 35kW with a power to weight ratio not exceeding 0.2kW per kg and derived from a vehicle of more than double its power. A motor tricycle with a power exceeding 15kW. AGE=24 See note 1 and 5
Edited by Blaster72 on Sunday 30th July 20:49
Blaster72 said:
Edited by Blaster72 on Sunday 30th July 20:49
Edit - Hold on, I'm assuming this is a provisional entitlement?
Edited by Cognoscenti on Sunday 30th July 21:03
Cognoscenti said:
Yeah I'm under 24... Couldn't find that page. Just found it unusual that it was showing on my licence! Next to it, it has restriction code 79 (3) which means its restricted to tricycles only. So assuming I was 24 right now I would be entitled to drive a tricycle?
Edit - Hold on, I'm assuming this is a provisional entitlement?
Not provisional as far as I know. I think it became necessary due to some decisions in Europe.. I think it is to allow you to drive Reliant Robins and Morgan three wheelers that would otherwise not be covered.Edit - Hold on, I'm assuming this is a provisional entitlement?
Edited by Cognoscenti on Sunday 30th July 21:03
Cognoscenti said:
No ideas for a name said:
I think it is to allow you to drive Reliant Robins...
Should be a whole driving test alone for those 
But all that info makes sense! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isetta
I was under the impression that a car licence if you passed after Jan 2013 does not allow you to drive a Reliant Robin. You can drive a Bugatti Veyron though.
3 wheelers are now classed as motorcycles so you need to take a bike test. But you can't take a bike test in a 3 wheeler, it has to be on a bike.
3 wheelers are now classed as motorcycles so you need to take a bike test. But you can't take a bike test in a 3 wheeler, it has to be on a bike.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
I was under the impression that a car licence if you passed after Jan 2013 does not allow you to drive a Reliant Robin. You can drive a Bugatti Veyron though.
3 wheelers are now classed as motorcycles so you need to take a bike test. But you can't take a bike test in a 3 wheeler, it has to be on a bike.
This would make sense. I passed in September 2012... Why this will be shown on my license, whether OH passed 2015 and it doesn't show on his license, So you'd be correct in saying that.3 wheelers are now classed as motorcycles so you need to take a bike test. But you can't take a bike test in a 3 wheeler, it has to be on a bike.
Cognoscenti said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
I was under the impression that a car licence if you passed after Jan 2013 does not allow you to drive a Reliant Robin. You can drive a Bugatti Veyron though.
3 wheelers are now classed as motorcycles so you need to take a bike test. But you can't take a bike test in a 3 wheeler, it has to be on a bike.
This would make sense. I passed in September 2012... Why this will be shown on my license, whether OH passed 2015 and it doesn't show on his license, So you'd be correct in saying that.3 wheelers are now classed as motorcycles so you need to take a bike test. But you can't take a bike test in a 3 wheeler, it has to be on a bike.
Cognoscenti said:
So
Me and the OH were renewing our driving licences after moving into a new home. I looked at mine and compared it to his to find that I have different 'licences',
On his he had the basic B with pass dates and AM subject to the 122 CBT pass, my licence has both of them also... But it has a B1 pass, and more unusually a full A license restricted to tricycles only
I passed my test in 2012 when i was 18, OH passed less than two years ago. Was is standard to have this licence info on the back in 2012 and has recently changed or has some plonker at the DVLA thought "f*** it, he's getting more than he bargained for"?
p.s Only done B test?
Check your licence categories/ entitlements online. Me and the OH were renewing our driving licences after moving into a new home. I looked at mine and compared it to his to find that I have different 'licences',
On his he had the basic B with pass dates and AM subject to the 122 CBT pass, my licence has both of them also... But it has a B1 pass, and more unusually a full A license restricted to tricycles only
I passed my test in 2012 when i was 18, OH passed less than two years ago. Was is standard to have this licence info on the back in 2012 and has recently changed or has some plonker at the DVLA thought "f*** it, he's getting more than he bargained for"?
p.s Only done B test?
https://www.gov.uk/view-driving-licence
I know this is old but the A licence category with a 79/3 code at the end is the fault of the EU and NO it doesn't mean you now have a bike licence.
In 2013 the EU reclassified all trikes(3 wheelers of any description) and put them in the motorcycle category.
This meant that NEW car licence holders (B) would no longer be entitled to riding or driving a 3 wheeled vehicle. Obviously in the UK this was a bit of a drawback as we still have quite a few car/trikes/kit car types on the road and car drivers used to have the right to drive one.
In 2014, without telling anyone, the DVLA had a derogation which again allowed NEW car drivers to ride/drive a trike.
Anyone who had a licence prior to 2013 still has the "grandfather" rights .
Because they now come under the motorcycle classification you now have the motorcycle classification of A with the code 79/3 which restricts that licence to anyone over 24 being able to drive a trike but NOT a motorcycle.
If you subsequently pass a motorcycle test when you get the licence back you will only have the A and the code will have disappeared.
Just to add the trike code only allows you to ride/drive a trike on UK territory so you can't nip over to the continent or southern Ireland in your Reliant lol
Once you pass the bike test you can. Crazy I know but them's the rules lol
In 2013 the EU reclassified all trikes(3 wheelers of any description) and put them in the motorcycle category.
This meant that NEW car licence holders (B) would no longer be entitled to riding or driving a 3 wheeled vehicle. Obviously in the UK this was a bit of a drawback as we still have quite a few car/trikes/kit car types on the road and car drivers used to have the right to drive one.
In 2014, without telling anyone, the DVLA had a derogation which again allowed NEW car drivers to ride/drive a trike.
Anyone who had a licence prior to 2013 still has the "grandfather" rights .
Because they now come under the motorcycle classification you now have the motorcycle classification of A with the code 79/3 which restricts that licence to anyone over 24 being able to drive a trike but NOT a motorcycle.
If you subsequently pass a motorcycle test when you get the licence back you will only have the A and the code will have disappeared.
Just to add the trike code only allows you to ride/drive a trike on UK territory so you can't nip over to the continent or southern Ireland in your Reliant lol
Once you pass the bike test you can. Crazy I know but them's the rules lol
Edited by gilburton on Wednesday 29th January 14:38
gilburton said:
I know this is old but the A licence category with a 79/3 code at the end is the fault of the EU and NO it doesn't mean you now have a bike licence.
In 2013 the EU reclassified all trikes(3 wheelers of any description) and put them in the motorcycle category.
This meant that NEW car licence holders (B) would no longer be entitled to riding or driving a 3 wheeled vehicle. Obviously in the UK this was a bit of a drawback as we still have quite a few car/trikes/kit car types on the road and car drivers used to have the right to drive one.
In 2014, without telling anyone, the DVLA had a derogation which again allowed NEW car drivers to ride/drive a trike.
Anyone who had a licence prior to 2013 still has the "grandfather" rights .
Because they now come under the motorcycle classification you now have the motorcycle classification of A with the code 79/3 which restricts that licence to anyone over 24 being able to drive a trike but NOT a motorcycle.
If you subsequently pass a motorcycle test when you get the licence back you will only have the A and the code will have disappeared.
Just to add the trike code only allows you to ride/drive a trike on UK territory so you can't nip over to the continent or southern Ireland in your Reliant lol
Once you pass the bike test you can. Crazy I know but them's the rules lol
That's life changing info....really. I've fancied a bubble car for a while, a Bond Bug maybe, of an Iso at a push. I'd love a Messerschmidt but it's miles out of budget. I haven't pursued it because my sons wouldn't be able to drive it (passed car test 2015 & 2017). But you're saying they can!! But one is currently 23 and the other 21? 18 when they passed?In 2013 the EU reclassified all trikes(3 wheelers of any description) and put them in the motorcycle category.
This meant that NEW car licence holders (B) would no longer be entitled to riding or driving a 3 wheeled vehicle. Obviously in the UK this was a bit of a drawback as we still have quite a few car/trikes/kit car types on the road and car drivers used to have the right to drive one.
In 2014, without telling anyone, the DVLA had a derogation which again allowed NEW car drivers to ride/drive a trike.
Anyone who had a licence prior to 2013 still has the "grandfather" rights .
Because they now come under the motorcycle classification you now have the motorcycle classification of A with the code 79/3 which restricts that licence to anyone over 24 being able to drive a trike but NOT a motorcycle.
If you subsequently pass a motorcycle test when you get the licence back you will only have the A and the code will have disappeared.
Just to add the trike code only allows you to ride/drive a trike on UK territory so you can't nip over to the continent or southern Ireland in your Reliant lol
Once you pass the bike test you can. Crazy I know but them's the rules lol
Edited by gilburton on Wednesday 29th January 14:38
Edited by TwigtheWonderkid on Wednesday 29th January 15:01
Yes if you check the code on the licence on the same line as the "B" car licence it should say 79(3)
This allows the licence holder to also drive 3 wheelers only. You MAY have the motorcycle category A on there as well BUT this doesn't mean you have a motorcycle licence.
Officially trikes come under the A licence now so to get round it you MAY have an A licence with the codes 79(3) which restricts that licence to trikes only!
NOTE there are age/ power restrictions in a similar way to bike licences so you may be restricted to low powered 3 wheelers.
Don't forget there are bike type 3 wheelers along with the Piaggio MP3 types which can also be classed as trikes hence the age restrictions.
If there isn't a trike code on the licence this may be due to your son's age?? My son who is well over 24 passed his car test last year nd has the 79(3) code after the B on his licence so check their licences first before rushing out to buy one although you probably drive it lol
They may have a different code which restricts them?? Possibly it might say A1 79(3) which is the restricted bike category??
This allows the licence holder to also drive 3 wheelers only. You MAY have the motorcycle category A on there as well BUT this doesn't mean you have a motorcycle licence.
Officially trikes come under the A licence now so to get round it you MAY have an A licence with the codes 79(3) which restricts that licence to trikes only!
NOTE there are age/ power restrictions in a similar way to bike licences so you may be restricted to low powered 3 wheelers.
Don't forget there are bike type 3 wheelers along with the Piaggio MP3 types which can also be classed as trikes hence the age restrictions.
If there isn't a trike code on the licence this may be due to your son's age?? My son who is well over 24 passed his car test last year nd has the 79(3) code after the B on his licence so check their licences first before rushing out to buy one although you probably drive it lol
They may have a different code which restricts them?? Possibly it might say A1 79(3) which is the restricted bike category??
Edited by gilburton on Monday 10th February 15:02
Edited by gilburton on Monday 10th February 15:04
Edited by gilburton on Monday 10th February 15:10
Edited by gilburton on Monday 10th February 15:18
Hi,
I passed my car driving test in 1958, and again, mixing it with the trams in Blackpool in an RAF Bedford 4x4 truck..
In 1965, the RAF sent me out to, Malaya , to look after the trucks on an RAF SAM site, on RAAF Butterworth. Barbara and I lived on Penang Island for two years ... and she still says I never take her anywhere.
Malaysia did not have a separate MOPED group, so they had to give me a full bike licence. I spent £20 on a thing called a Pointer, 185cc,,, and rode it for two years.I taught Barbara to drive in 1951 Sunbeam Talbot 90 on Penang Island (She still says I never take her anywhere). On returning to UK, she had one professional lesson, and passed her test in a seriously decrepit Mini, in South East London. Her licence was restricted to "A MOTOR CAR AND A MOTOR TRICYCLE". Did I mention that she only has the use of one arm?
Since then she drove a Reliant Sabre 6GT (Google RELIANT SABRE 361WYD IMAGES) for 9 years as her shopping car, Historic rallied her TVR Vixern, and was twice stopped in her Honda CRX for exceeding 100mph on the M4, and was told not to do it again. For her 70th birthday I gave her three laps driving a Ferrari round Silversone at 120mph, followed by the same again in an Aston Martin
Strangely, her Groups entitlement has slowly increased over the years, until it is now the same as mine. ???
I've just looked at my licence, and find I have no entitlement to drive a three-wheeler. I suspect it is buried in the the MOTORCYCLE TERMS AND CONDITIONS, I'll be back in a minute.
602
I passed my car driving test in 1958, and again, mixing it with the trams in Blackpool in an RAF Bedford 4x4 truck..
In 1965, the RAF sent me out to, Malaya , to look after the trucks on an RAF SAM site, on RAAF Butterworth. Barbara and I lived on Penang Island for two years ... and she still says I never take her anywhere.
Malaysia did not have a separate MOPED group, so they had to give me a full bike licence. I spent £20 on a thing called a Pointer, 185cc,,, and rode it for two years.I taught Barbara to drive in 1951 Sunbeam Talbot 90 on Penang Island (She still says I never take her anywhere). On returning to UK, she had one professional lesson, and passed her test in a seriously decrepit Mini, in South East London. Her licence was restricted to "A MOTOR CAR AND A MOTOR TRICYCLE". Did I mention that she only has the use of one arm?
Since then she drove a Reliant Sabre 6GT (Google RELIANT SABRE 361WYD IMAGES) for 9 years as her shopping car, Historic rallied her TVR Vixern, and was twice stopped in her Honda CRX for exceeding 100mph on the M4, and was told not to do it again. For her 70th birthday I gave her three laps driving a Ferrari round Silversone at 120mph, followed by the same again in an Aston Martin
Strangely, her Groups entitlement has slowly increased over the years, until it is now the same as mine. ???
I've just looked at my licence, and find I have no entitlement to drive a three-wheeler. I suspect it is buried in the the MOTORCYCLE TERMS AND CONDITIONS, I'll be back in a minute.
602
gilburton said:
Yes if you check the code on the licence on the same line as the "B" car licence it should say 79(3)
This allows the licence holder to also drive 3 wheelers only. You MAY have the motorcycle category A on there as well BUT this doesn't mean you have a motorcycle licence.
Officially trikes come under the A licence now so to get round it you MAY have an A licence with the codes 79(3) which restricts that licence to trikes only!
NOTE there are age/ power restrictions in a similar way to bike licences so you may be restricted to low powered 3 wheelers.
Don't forget there are bike type 3 wheelers along with the Piaggio MP3 types which can also be classed as trikes hence the age restrictions.
If there isn't a trike code on the licence this may be due to your son's age?? My son who is well over 24 passed his car test last year nd has the 79(3) code after the B on his licence so check their licences first before rushing out to buy one although you probably drive it lol
They may have a different code which restricts them?? Possibly it might say A1 79(3) which is the restricted bike category??
My sons were under 24 when they passed. Both passed after 2013. Neither have 79(3) on their licence. This allows the licence holder to also drive 3 wheelers only. You MAY have the motorcycle category A on there as well BUT this doesn't mean you have a motorcycle licence.
Officially trikes come under the A licence now so to get round it you MAY have an A licence with the codes 79(3) which restricts that licence to trikes only!
NOTE there are age/ power restrictions in a similar way to bike licences so you may be restricted to low powered 3 wheelers.
Don't forget there are bike type 3 wheelers along with the Piaggio MP3 types which can also be classed as trikes hence the age restrictions.
If there isn't a trike code on the licence this may be due to your son's age?? My son who is well over 24 passed his car test last year nd has the 79(3) code after the B on his licence so check their licences first before rushing out to buy one although you probably drive it lol
They may have a different code which restricts them?? Possibly it might say A1 79(3) which is the restricted bike category??
gilburton said:
I know this is old but the A licence category with a 79/3 code at the end is the fault of the EU and NO it doesn't mean you now have a bike licence.
In 2013 the EU reclassified all trikes(3 wheelers of any description) and put them in the motorcycle category.
This meant that NEW car licence holders (B) would no longer be entitled to riding or driving a 3 wheeled vehicle. Obviously in the UK this was a bit of a drawback as we still have quite a few car/trikes/kit car types on the road and car drivers used to have the right to drive one.
In 2014, without telling anyone, the DVLA had a derogation which again allowed NEW car drivers to ride/drive a trike.
Anyone who had a licence prior to 2013 still has the "grandfather" rights .
Because they now come under the motorcycle classification you now have the motorcycle classification of A with the code 79/3 which restricts that licence to anyone over 24 being able to drive a trike but NOT a motorcycle.
If you subsequently pass a motorcycle test when you get the licence back you will only have the A and the code will have disappeared.
Just to add the trike code only allows you to ride/drive a trike on UK territory so you can't nip over to the continent or southern Ireland in your Reliant lol
Once you pass the bike test you can. Crazy I know but them's the rules lol
Anno its an old post but, I'm just doing own research on this and its very confusing to say the least. So, I've been told anyone who passed a car licence test in UK are allowed to ride/drive a trike. This being a EU pink card licence.In 2013 the EU reclassified all trikes(3 wheelers of any description) and put them in the motorcycle category.
This meant that NEW car licence holders (B) would no longer be entitled to riding or driving a 3 wheeled vehicle. Obviously in the UK this was a bit of a drawback as we still have quite a few car/trikes/kit car types on the road and car drivers used to have the right to drive one.
In 2014, without telling anyone, the DVLA had a derogation which again allowed NEW car drivers to ride/drive a trike.
Anyone who had a licence prior to 2013 still has the "grandfather" rights .
Because they now come under the motorcycle classification you now have the motorcycle classification of A with the code 79/3 which restricts that licence to anyone over 24 being able to drive a trike but NOT a motorcycle.
If you subsequently pass a motorcycle test when you get the licence back you will only have the A and the code will have disappeared.
Just to add the trike code only allows you to ride/drive a trike on UK territory so you can't nip over to the continent or southern Ireland in your Reliant lol
Once you pass the bike test you can. Crazy I know but them's the rules lol
Edited by gilburton on Wednesday 29th January 14:38
I'd like to know, as it's country of origin, would it still be valid if travelling in and out of Europe in a 2 week period as a tourist like others use their foreign licences here in the uk
gilburton said:
Yes if you check the code on the licence on the same line as the "B" car licence it should say 79(3)
This allows the licence holder to also drive 3 wheelers only. You MAY have the motorcycle category A on there as well BUT this doesn't mean you have a motorcycle licence.
Officially trikes come under the A licence now so to get round it you MAY have an A licence with the codes 79(3) which restricts that licence to trikes only!
NOTE there are age/ power restrictions in a similar way to bike licences so you may be restricted to low powered 3 wheelers.
Don't forget there are bike type 3 wheelers along with the Piaggio MP3 types which can also be classed as trikes hence the age restrictions.
If there isn't a trike code on the licence this may be due to your son's age?? My son who is well over 24 passed his car test last year nd has the 79(3) code after the B on his licence so check their licences first before rushing out to buy one although you probably drive it lol
They may have a different code which restricts them?? Possibly it might say A1 79(3) which is the restricted bike category??
How is this possible if it all changed Jan 2013? Doing my head in this. Wonder what the fine would be if you got pulled up or whether they'd even know what to checkThis allows the licence holder to also drive 3 wheelers only. You MAY have the motorcycle category A on there as well BUT this doesn't mean you have a motorcycle licence.
Officially trikes come under the A licence now so to get round it you MAY have an A licence with the codes 79(3) which restricts that licence to trikes only!
NOTE there are age/ power restrictions in a similar way to bike licences so you may be restricted to low powered 3 wheelers.
Don't forget there are bike type 3 wheelers along with the Piaggio MP3 types which can also be classed as trikes hence the age restrictions.
If there isn't a trike code on the licence this may be due to your son's age?? My son who is well over 24 passed his car test last year nd has the 79(3) code after the B on his licence so check their licences first before rushing out to buy one although you probably drive it lol
They may have a different code which restricts them?? Possibly it might say A1 79(3) which is the restricted bike category??
Edited by gilburton on Monday 10th February 15:02
Edited by gilburton on Monday 10th February 15:04
Edited by gilburton on Monday 10th February 15:10
Edited by gilburton on Monday 10th February 15:18
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