Does car have to be insured?
Does car have to be insured?
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wolfracesonic

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9,239 posts

157 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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As above, my father passed away in June, renewal for his insurance came shortly after so I rang to cancel it. The car is fully taxed (not SORN) till the new year, parked off the road. I've had a letter from askMID saying it needs to be SORN or insured and the DVLA need to informed. I don't want to SORN it as I will be driving it to my local WBAC at some point which my insurance will cover me for, third party. I've still got the V5. Any ideas?

SS2.

14,712 posts

268 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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SORN it or insure it - unfortunately, there are no other options.

anonymous-user

84 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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It needs to be SORN or insured, that’s the law now. You could give DVLA a call and explain the situation, but I’m not aware of an exception for this situation.

wolfracesonic

Original Poster:

9,239 posts

157 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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OK, thanks for that, seems a bit daft but so be it.

SS2.

14,712 posts

268 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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Also be aware that when you declare SORN, the tax will be cancelled and only whole unused months will be refunded.

With this in mind (and not only to keep the CIE hounds at bay), you might want to SORN before the end of this month.

TwigtheWonderkid

49,125 posts

180 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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SS2. said:
Also be aware that when you declare SORN, the tax will be cancelled and only whole unused months will be refunded.

With this in mind (and not only to keep the CIE hounds at bay), you might want to SORN before the end of this month.
If it's uninsured, he needs to sorn it asap, to avoid further action being taken.

JZZ30

1,102 posts

145 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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Your Driving Other Cars extension (if that's what you mean by your insurer will cover third party) likely requires that the car is covered by a policy in its own right.

SS2.

14,712 posts

268 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
If it's uninsured, he needs to sorn it asap, to avoid further action being taken.
Thought that went without saying.

JZZ30 said:
Your Driving Other Cars extension (if that's what you mean by your insurer will cover third party) likely requires that the car is covered by a policy in its own right.
Maybe, maybe not.

wolfracesonic

Original Poster:

9,239 posts

157 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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I must admit, I never thought of the car being uninsured was an issue with it being parked off the road; I knew it had to be either taxed or SORN'ed but not insured. Thanks for your replies, looks like I'll SORN it. Every days a school day and all that.............

Retroman

975 posts

163 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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If you have inherited your dads belongings then it's likely you wouldn't be able to drive the car third party under your existing policy either.
That third party cover normally only applies to vehicles you don't own and have the owner's consent to use.

Paul Dishman

5,411 posts

267 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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Adding the car to your own insurance policy for a day to take it to WBAC will probably be done at nominal cost if you explain the circumstances to the insurance company

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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Paul Dishman said:
Adding the car to your own insurance policy for a day to take it to WBAC will probably be done at nominal cost if you explain the circumstances to the insurance company
And it won't make any difference with the tax-or-SORN question.

The law changed in 2011 - continuous insurance means that ALL taxed cars need to be on MID as being insured. No insurance, SORN it. End of. That simple.

Old Merc

3,819 posts

197 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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All the advice above is correct,if its not insured SORN it.
Mind you if its a nice valuable car it may worth having some sort of fire and theft insurance?

Gareth79

9,073 posts

276 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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It's situations like these that it would be useful if WBAC offered a collection service on trade plates (for a separate fee of course), although I'm sure they have looked into that.

TwigtheWonderkid

49,125 posts

180 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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JZZ30 said:
Your Driving Other Cars extension (if that's what you mean by your insurer will cover third party) likely requires that the car is covered by a policy in its own right.
Mine doesn't. But it wouldn't allow me to drive a car I'd inherited, because it's mine, and my DOC doesn't cover my own cars.

Garybee

453 posts

196 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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One day insurance when you take it there could well cost very little. The last couple of times I've needed it has cost me about £30-40. It's not a lot to keep you legal.

SantaBarbara

3,244 posts

138 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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wolfracesonic said:
As above, my father passed away in June, renewal for his insurance came shortly after so I rang to cancel it. The car is fully taxed (not SORN) till the new year, parked off the road. I've had a letter from askMID saying it needs to be SORN or insured and the DVLA need to informed. I don't want to SORN it as I will be driving it to my local WBAC at some point which my insurance will cover me for, third party. I've still got the V5. Any ideas?
Has probate been granted yet?

It is not your problem is it?

mjb1

2,585 posts

189 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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There is something weird relating to taxing a car whilst in probate. I don't think the executor can tax or SORN it, it's just stuck in a perpetual state until the DVLA get notified of a change of keeper, who can then tax or SORN it as usual. I might not be totally right there, best for the OP (assuming he's executor) to phone the DVLA and ask. But I know we had a similar scenario with one of my recently deceased uncle's cars, although that was SORN at the time of his death, so it maybe just that a SORNed vehicle can't be taxed while in the name of the deceased.

Old Merc

3,819 posts

197 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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mjb1 said:
There is something weird relating to taxing a car whilst in probate. I don't think the executor can tax or SORN it, it's just stuck in a perpetual state until the DVLA get notified of a change of keeper, who can then tax or SORN it as usual. I might not be totally right there, best for the OP (assuming he's executor) to phone the DVLA and ask. But I know we had a similar scenario with one of my recently deceased uncle's cars, although that was SORN at the time of his death, so it maybe just that a SORNed vehicle can't be taxed while in the name of the deceased.
A good friend of mine died this year and his daughter sold me his car while probate was still ongoing.The process was just the same,she even phoned DVLA just to make sure. I had the V5C/2 and taxed it online,she sent off the V5 to DVLA and got a tax refund,I got the new V5 in my name.
I suppose the only problem would be if the car was mentioned in the will.

bradjsmith88

117 posts

158 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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