Is heroin the drug of choice for carnival goers?
Is heroin the drug of choice for carnival goers?
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SkrrSkrr

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261 posts

119 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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https://twitter.com/metpoliceuk/status/89991475886...

Can someone tell me the correlation between seizing a 1Kg of heroin in SE London and notting hill carnival.


Alucidnation

16,810 posts

200 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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Good point, because N.H.C. is known for being drug free.

Dixy

3,656 posts

235 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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thread title lead me to think you had to be drugged up to go on https://www.carnival.com/cruise-ships.aspx

JimmyConwayNW

3,645 posts

155 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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In other news carnival goers Nan makes cup of tea.

SkrrSkrr

Original Poster:

261 posts

119 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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Alucidnation said:
Good point, because N.H.C. is known for being drug free.
It's known for Mary-jane, just like Hyde park on the 20th of April. Does the MET link any drugs seized the week before 4/20 to Hyde park?

cbmotorsport

3,065 posts

148 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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From the very little I know about Heroin, it's highly unlikely to help with your carnival vibe as you lie on the floor of your empty flat unable to move and off your tits. Ridiculous trying to link the two things.

Biker 1

8,590 posts

149 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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cbmotorsport said:
From the very little I know about Heroin, it's highly unlikely to help with your carnival vibe as you lie on the floor of your empty flat unable to move and off your tits. Ridiculous trying to link the two things.
Yep - I thought it was all cannabis, E, mandy & perhaps coke that were the carnival drugs of choice..........

Pothole

34,367 posts

312 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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I suspect the "link" may have been increased drugs raids in the run up to try and head off some of the stupidity and violence which accompanies the event.

cbmotorsport

3,065 posts

148 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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Yes of course. But it's unfair and unjust publicity for the Carnival which attracts nearly 2 million happy, friendly people intent on having a good time. The small minority that cause grief/deal drugs/are violent don't represent the masses.

ED209

6,026 posts

274 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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cbmotorsport said:
Yes of course. But it's unfair and unjust publicity for the Carnival which attracts nearly 2 million happy, friendly people intent on having a good time. The small minority that cause grief/deal drugs/are violent don't represent the masses.
Lat year 43 cops injured and taken to hospital, 450 total arrests, 90 of them for possession of knives/blades, 169 for drugs, 40 for public order offences, 25 for assaulting police officers. Four separate knife attacks on the Sunday alone.


Sounds like a lovely facility friendly event!

surveyor_101

5,069 posts

209 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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cbmotorsport said:
Yes of course. But it's unfair and unjust publicity for the Carnival which attracts nearly 2 million happy, friendly people intent on having a good time. The small minority that cause grief/deal drugs/are violent don't represent the masses.
No but 400 crimes and 8 police officers seriously hospitalised and many more needing treatment is not acceptable, the level of crime makes it a nightmare for the met and would the left not cry racist the met would of put a stop to it after last years crime and voilence

In sleepy somerset we have loads of carnivals including bridgwater which is 7 miles long and streamed around the world and we don't have drug problems and hundreds of people with knifes coming to see it!

Greendubber

15,329 posts

233 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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ED209 said:
cbmotorsport said:
Yes of course. But it's unfair and unjust publicity for the Carnival which attracts nearly 2 million happy, friendly people intent on having a good time. The small minority that cause grief/deal drugs/are violent don't represent the masses.
Lat year 43 cops injured and taken to hospital, 450 total arrests, 90 of them for possession of knives/blades, 169 for drugs, 40 for public order offences, 25 for assaulting police officers. Four separate knife attacks on the Sunday alone.


Sounds like a lovely facility friendly event!
What a delightful sounding day out.


cbmotorsport

3,065 posts

148 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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I agree, it's a nightmare to police, and it has it's problems. My point was that the vast majority of people are there for the right reasons. The carnival doesn't need the bad press.

0.02% of the visitors were arrested last year.I suspect you get that sort of percentage at most large gatherings like music festivals football matches etc.

Gather 2,000,000 million people in a city centre like London and you're going to have some issues, should we just stop these things due to a tiny minority?

cbmotorsport

3,065 posts

148 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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Greendubber said:
What a delightful sounding day out.
Funnily enough it is! :-)

joshleb

1,550 posts

174 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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cbmotorsport said:
Gather 2,000,000 million people in a city centre like London and you're going to have some issues, should we just stop these things due to a tiny minority?
Going to be a squeeze!!!

Byker28i

92,213 posts

247 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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surveyor_101 said:
In sleepy somerset we have loads of carnivals including bridgwater which is 7 miles long and streamed around the world and we don't have drug problems and hundreds of people with knifes coming to see it!
To be fair that because the majority of troublemakers are already off their heads on the cider... biggrin

anonymous-user

84 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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surveyor_101 said:
In sleepy somerset we have loads of carnivals including bridgwater which is 7 miles long and streamed around the world and we don't have drug problems and hundreds of people with knifes coming to see it!
Bridgwater must have massively improved then as it was a violent, druggy sthole when I lived down that way

surveyor_101

5,069 posts

209 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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ED209 said:
Lat year 43 cops injured and taken to hospital, 450 total arrests, 90 of them for possession of knives/blades, 169 for drugs, 40 for public order offences, 25 for assaulting police officers. Four separate knife attacks on the Sunday alone.


Sounds like a lovely facility friendly event!
Glasonbury is bigger over 4-5 days, pays for police.

Arrest up this year from 40 to 71 but crime lower.

Notting Hil Carn over 400 arrests! Its mad!

surveyor_101

5,069 posts

209 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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anonymous said:
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Think its better than it was but but not completely sorted but still you wont get into triple figure let alone 400 arrests for the event.

cbmotorsport

3,065 posts

148 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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joshleb said:
Going to be a squeeze!!!
Surprising isn't it.