Cracked windscreen at time of delivery
Cracked windscreen at time of delivery
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REDCARISMINE

Original Poster:

45 posts

121 months

Saturday 26th August 2017
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Probably been asked before

Car i recently purchased from recognised independent specialist dealer- has crack in windscreen top to bottom approx 3 cm from edge of frame on passenger side - so mostly in black part of screen and running along same lower edge maybe 20cm

Car came with 12 months mot done the day before - should it of passed ? And is it actually now illegal to drive ?

Fan doesn't work - is this an mot issue ? was supposed to of had a/c recharge - at a loss as to how guy checked / did this with no working fan ?

A few other issues with stuff not working but not so serious . But left thinking if PDI done or if thinking I just wouldn't notice ??

- So much for buying from a specialist dealer









sparkythecat

8,100 posts

285 months

Saturday 26th August 2017
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A car will fail it's MOT if

The windscreen is chipped or cracked. The maximum damage size is 10mm in the drivers’ line of vision (a vertical strip 290mm wide centred on the steering wheel), 40mm elsewhere in the rest of the area swept by the wiper blades.

So the damage you've described wouldn't mean an MOT failure



Edited by sparkythecat on Saturday 26th August 09:37

Plug Life

978 posts

121 months

Saturday 26th August 2017
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Start freezing the sausages.

SS2.

14,712 posts

268 months

Saturday 26th August 2017
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Is any part of the crack within the swept area of the wipers ? If it's entirely outside, then it wouldn't be a reason for MOT rejection.

What fan doesn't work - the cooling fan or the internal blower ? Entirely moot as neither are MOT testable items.

You seem to be focussing on MOT failure items as grounds for twisting the dealer's arm into undertaking repair works. Have you actually spoken to the dealer about the items that are wrong ? Perhaps given the chance (and a conciliatory approach), they'd be perfectly amendable to resolving any issues with zero fuss.

Osinjak

5,453 posts

151 months

Saturday 26th August 2017
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Plug Life said:
Start freezing the sausages.
Hilarious, you simply must change careers.

Sam.

316 posts

151 months

Saturday 26th August 2017
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SS2. said:
Is any part of the crack within the swept area of the wipers ? If it's entirely outside, then it wouldn't be a reason for MOT rejection.

What fan doesn't work - the cooling fan or the internal blower ? Entirely moot as neither are MOT testable items.

You seem to be focussing on MOT failure items as grounds for twisting the dealer's arm into undertaking repair works. Have you actually spoken to the dealer about the items that are wrong ? Perhaps given the chance (and a conciliatory approach), they'd be perfectly amendable to resolving any issues with zero fuss.
Had a few cars in for MOT and have had to have the MOT aborted due to overheating with no radiator cooling fan working.

Might not be a issue with some cars but most will cause the fan to come on during the MOT.

REDCARISMINE

Original Poster:

45 posts

121 months

Saturday 26th August 2017
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Yes dealer has said will put it right and look at other areas but asking me to wait a month before bringing back - suggested I claim off my insurance and pay the XS - dealer was fully aware of the crack before hand

It's destroying pleasure of buying and ownership knowing paid not a small amount of money ( nearly 35k) for it and obvious overlooked faults everytime think about it and having to wait a month - and fact I maybe shouldn't be driving it or risk points and a fine is leaving me -well - not very happy day by day

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

200 months

Saturday 26th August 2017
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If i was paying £35k for a car it would need to be fully operational before any money was parted with.

Amused2death

2,526 posts

226 months

Saturday 26th August 2017
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REDCARISMINE said:
Yes dealer has said will put it right and look at other areas but asking me to wait a month before bringing back - suggested I claim off my insurance and pay the XS - dealer was fully aware of the crack before hand

It's destroying pleasure of buying and ownership knowing paid not a small amount of money ( nearly 35k) for it and obvious overlooked faults everytime think about it and having to wait a month - and fact I maybe shouldn't be driving it or risk points and a fine is leaving me -well - not very happy day by day
He's only asking you to wait so any third party warranty can be used to pay for any faults. (Therefore if the warranty company turns you down he can say it's not his problem) If I was you I'd be going down there now to get it sorted. If I was spending that amount of money on a vehicle I'd expect it not only to be perfect, but the dealer to rectify any immediate faults with it.

carreauchompeur

18,323 posts

234 months

Saturday 26th August 2017
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fk me, thirty five grand, and he's quibbling over a FULLY CRACKED windscreen?

Run.

Glassman

25,012 posts

245 months

Saturday 26th August 2017
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REDCARISMINE]Yes dealer has [/.. said:
suggested I claim off my insurance and pay the XS - dealer was fully aware of the crack before hand



Damage was preexisting and happened before inception.

OddCat

2,828 posts

201 months

Saturday 26th August 2017
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REDCARISMINE said:
suggested I claim off my insurance and pay the XS - dealer was fully aware of the crack before hand
....so the dealer is suggesting that you commit fraud. Lovely.

What car is this ?

lucido grigio

44,044 posts

193 months

Saturday 26th August 2017
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Got a pic of the windscreen crack ?

road_rager

1,091 posts

229 months

Saturday 26th August 2017
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Not an MOT failure but for £35K the tight bd wont fix a couple of things for a few hundred quid!

When I bought my 7k forester a couple of years ago it had a few chips in the screen and a rotted exhaust and I told dealer I'd pay sticker price once those and a few other bits were done, and he did indeed do that before I handed bulk of money over


KungFuPanda

4,641 posts

200 months

Saturday 26th August 2017
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OP, why didn't you see the crack when you were initially looking to buy the car?

REDCARISMINE

Original Poster:

45 posts

121 months

Saturday 26th August 2017
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OK may aswell get the rest off my chest

1 cracked windscreen - seal also failed at bottom
2 mirror switch not working
3 a/c and fan not working - was told a/c was regassed - ? how did they check it with no working fan ??
4 brakes - don't feel right -
5 gear knob loose tightens but then is upside down
6 boot lid had new struts but one side not set properly
7 speakers wired wrong way round
8 1 key - pretty sure I asked if it had 2 and no immobiliser reset fobs - but told was thatch cat 1 alarm immobiliser
9 battery - ok - but voltage varies depending on if central locked or not
couple of other bits too think who ever did the PDI needs to do a bit of explaining

yes - I am feeling a fool

but lesson for all is just because is a specialist don't trust them despite when they say this type of car is very specialist and should only trust and buy one from a specialist dealer.


Alucidnation

16,810 posts

200 months

Saturday 26th August 2017
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What car is it?

Red Devil

13,520 posts

238 months

Saturday 26th August 2017
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REDCARISMINE said:
5 gear knob loose tightens but then is upside down
That's a fiendishly clever party trick. laugh
I presume you meant back to front.



helix402

7,913 posts

212 months

Saturday 26th August 2017
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Alucidnation said:
What car is it?
It might be red.

OddCat

2,828 posts

201 months

Saturday 26th August 2017
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helix402 said:
Alucidnation said:
What car is it?
It might be red.
....the sort that makes you go all Stevie Wonder when you see it

It must be something old and exotic. But looks like the OP is going to keep us on tenter hooks re what it is. If it's a 35 year old Ferrari (Mondial ?) I'm surprised the snag list is so shortshort....