NIP time scale
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N13LHN

Original Poster:

92 posts

226 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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Is it still law that speeding NIPs have to be served within 14 days?

SantaBarbara

3,244 posts

138 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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Why do you ask

anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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It needs to reach the registered keeper by day 15 - 14 days plus the day of offence.

WinstonWolf

72,863 posts

269 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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SantaBarbara said:
Why do you ask
Why do *you* ask?

Always...

eatcustard

1,003 posts

157 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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SantaBarbara said:
Why do you ask
This a trick question?

anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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eatcustard said:
SantaBarbara said:
Why do you ask
This a trick question?
This user (SantaBarbara) has spent the last month st posting and making no sense.



N13LHN

Original Poster:

92 posts

226 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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At the risk of playing right into the trolls hands I got caught speeding on my bike august bank holiday. The 28th to be precise.

Guilty as charged tbh and got caught sweet as a nut. Gutted about my clean license more than anything.

paintman

7,860 posts

220 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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If you were stopped at the time you would have been given a verbal NIP when given the ticket or told you were being reported.
There is then no requirement to serve one by post so the 14 days becomes irrelevant.

SS2.

14,712 posts

268 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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N13LHN said:
At the risk of playing right into the trolls hands I got caught speeding on my bike august bank holiday. The 28th to be precise.
More info required.

Were you stopped and given a warning at the time ?

If not, have you received a NIP served by post or are you still waiting ?

N13LHN

Original Poster:

92 posts

226 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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Yeah I got stopped by an unmarked car doing quite a bit over the limit.

Police were great about it tbh. Took all my details etc. I'm gutted but I deserve what I'm gonna get

SS2.

14,712 posts

268 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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N13LHN said:
Yeah I got stopped by an unmarked car doing quite a bit over the limit.

Police were great about it tbh. Took all my details etc. I'm gutted but I deserve what I'm gonna get
OK. As above, in that case - no need for a NIP to be served by post if you were stopped & warned of prosecution at the time.



IanJ9375

1,638 posts

246 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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N13LHN said:
Yeah I got stopped by an unmarked car doing quite a bit over the limit.

Police were great about it tbh. Took all my details etc. I'm gutted but I deserve what I'm gonna get
As the (NIP) notice was done in person the 2 weeks are of no interest to you, what you need to watch for now is a summons within 6months of the date of offence iirc

cmaguire

3,589 posts

139 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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N13LHN said:
Yeah I got stopped by an unmarked car doing quite a bit over the limit.

Police were great about it tbh. Took all my details etc. I'm gutted but I deserve what I'm gonna get
You deserve what you're gonna get?

You sound like one of the brainwashed majority queueing up to receive your inevitable reward for having the gall to abuse the pre-ordained system in place to protect society from the inevitable armageddon if left to think for itself.

They were probably 'great' about it because they know how totally trivial it all is when considered against all the other crap that goes on unabated day after day.

Caveat.... if you were doing 60 past a school at chucking out time then I take it all back. Only the death penalty will do.

Red Devil

13,520 posts

238 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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garyhun said:
It needs to reach the registered keeper by day 15 - 14 days plus the day of offence.
No! It is not helpful to post such incorrect information.

RTOA 1988 Section 1 said:
[c]within fourteen days of the commission of the offence a notice of the intended prosecution specifying the nature of the alleged offence and the time and place where it is alleged to have been committed, was—

 (i)in the case of an offence under section 28 or 29 of the M1Road Traffic Act 1988 (cycling offences), served on him,

 (ii)in the case of any other offence, served on him or on the person, if any, registered as the keeper of the vehicle at the time of the commission of the offence.
That the 14 day limit is absolute for a NoIP served by post was confirmed in Gidden v Chief Constable of Humberside.
He was convicted at S c u n t h o r p e* Magistrates Court, which was upheld on appeal to Great Grimsby Crown Court.
Overturned on further appeal by the High Court QBD. The decision is therefore definitive and binding on all Magistrates/Crown Courts.

 * Dumb swear filter. rolleyes

agtlaw

7,409 posts

236 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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The day of the offence is not counted when calculating the 14 day period.


agtlaw

7,409 posts

236 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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IanJ9375 said:
N13LHN said:
Yeah I got stopped by an unmarked car doing quite a bit over the limit.

Police were great about it tbh. Took all my details etc. I'm gutted but I deserve what I'm gonna get
As the (NIP) notice was done in person the 2 weeks are of no interest to you, what you need to watch for now is a summons within 6months of the date of offence iirc
A Written Charge and Single Justice Procedure Notice must be issued within 6 months of the index offence.

Otherwise, a Written Charge and Postal Requisition must be issued within 6 months of the index offence.

As with a Notice of Intended Prosecution, the day of the alleged offence is not taken into account when calculating the 6 month deadline to commence proceedings.

Red Devil

13,520 posts

238 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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Interesting.

I have always understood the wording - 'within' together with 'of' - to mean that the day of the offence is included in the specified time frame.
If Parliament had meant to exclude the day of the offence I would have expected it to have said so in terms that are less open to interpretation.

Every day's a schoolday. smile







anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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Red Devil said:
Interesting.

I have always understood the wording - 'within' together with 'of' - to mean that the day of the offence is included in the specified time frame.
If Parliament had meant to exclude the day of the offence I would have expected it to have said so in terms that are less open to interpretation.

Every day's a schoolday. smile
Apology accepted smile

Solocle

4,211 posts

114 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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Anybody know of any case where a speeding motorcyclist killed another driver? Obviously, they have the potential to kill pedestrians, but I'm curious. I'd have thought the risk posed by a motorbike going at high (read: unsuitable) speeds was far lower to other road users. At the end of the day, on the motorway, they're only likely to kill themselves, I'd have thought.

So, like there's a separate speed limit for HGV's, why not a separate (higher) one for bikers?

N13LHN

Original Poster:

92 posts

226 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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6 months!!!! That's absolutely disgusting that they're allowed to take that amount of time.

Oh well, I shouldn't have broken the law I guess.