Vehicle seizure order query
Vehicle seizure order query
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egor110

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17,675 posts

233 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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Oct 5th i sold a car and posted the log book off to the dvla the same day ( have a pic of the filled in log book with the new owners details )

Oct 7th the new owner has been stopped by the police as it turns out he had no insurance and the car has been seized .

Oct 12th i get a vehicle seizure notice in the post .

As i've sold the car and have sent the log book to the dvla then this has nothing to do with me ?

Pica-Pica

16,625 posts

114 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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Correct.

DrDeAtH

3,700 posts

262 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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You've sold the car, it's not yours to worry about.

However, had you changed the keeper using the online service this could have been avoided.

egor110

Original Poster:

17,675 posts

233 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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DrDeAtH said:
You've sold the car, it's not yours to worry about.

However, had you changed the keeper using the online service this could have been avoided.
is it worth doing that now ?

Jim1556

1,838 posts

186 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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DrDeAtH said:
You've sold the car, it's not yours to worry about.

However, had you changed the keeper using the online service this could have been avoided.
Just because he hasn't used the online service, doesn't make it his problem.

Op, send a copy of the sale receipt, it'll go away...

codenamecueball

734 posts

119 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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egor110 said:
is it worth doing that now ?
Once you've posted it off it's the exact same. Do it online and you'll mix things up so just let nature take its course.

egor110

Original Poster:

17,675 posts

233 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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Jim1556 said:
DrDeAtH said:
You've sold the car, it's not yours to worry about.

However, had you changed the keeper using the online service this could have been avoided.
Just because he hasn't used the online service, doesn't make it his problem.

Op, send a copy of the sale receipt, it'll go away...
I sent the log book off the day i sold it , 5th oct.

Red Devil

13,520 posts

238 months

Friday 13th October 2017
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Posting it doesn't mean DVLA have received it. RM does lose mail. The DVLA is even more capable of doing so internally.
Did you take a photocopy of the V5C with the signatures and date together with Proof of Posting receipt from the Post Office?
That's a given if you use snail mail in case problems subsequently rear their head.
Keep an eye out for an acknowledgement letter during the coming days/weeks. Chase it it up if not received.

It's madness not to use the online service now (provided it hasn't crashed of course!). You receive an immediate response.
Using snail mail means any offence by the new RK in the first days after the sale will inevitably come back in the first instance on the seller.
There is an inevitable delay built in to changing the record using that method.

SantaBarbara

3,244 posts

138 months

Friday 13th October 2017
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Red Devil said:
Posting it doesn't mean DVLA have received it. RM does lose mail. The DVLA is even more capable of doing so internally.
Did you take a photocopy of the V5C with the signatures and date together with Proof of Posting receipt from the Post Office?
That's a given if you use snail mail in case problems subsequently rear their head.
Keep an eye out for an acknowledgement letter during the coming days/weeks. Chase it it up if not received.

It's madness not to use the online service now (provided it hasn't crashed of course!). You receive an immediate response.
Using snail mail means any offence by the new RK in the first days after the sale will inevitably come back in the first instance on the seller.
There is an inevitable delay built in to changing the record using that method.
How recent has te online service gone live?

Not many people know about the online service do they?

SantaBarbara

3,244 posts

138 months

Friday 13th October 2017
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egor110 said:
Oct 5th i sold a car and posted the log book off to the dvla the same day ( have a pic of the filled in log book with the new owners details )

Oct 7th the new owner has been stopped by the police as it turns out he had no insurance and the car has been seized .

Oct 12th i get a vehicle seizure notice in the post .

As i've sold the car and have sent the log book to the dvla then this has nothing to do with me ?
What does the notice request you to do about it?

catso

16,478 posts

297 months

Friday 13th October 2017
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SantaBarbara said:
How recent has te online service gone live?
First time I did it was just under 2 years ago, bought a car for my Son and the seller did the change online. I'd never heard of it before but have used it since and wouldn't use the postal service again as you get an immediate confirmation.

My other Son bought a car last year and the dealer insisted on using the postal service, he never did get the the V5 so had to apply for a replacement. Presumably it got lost by either the dealer, Royal Mail or DVLA?

The odd thing about the service is that you can only do it during working hours?

https://www.gov.uk/sold-bought-vehicle

Magic919

14,535 posts

231 months

Friday 13th October 2017
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It’s 07:00-19:00 seven days a week. You can’t even phone them for all of those hours.

SantaBarbara

3,244 posts

138 months

Friday 13th October 2017
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Yes, the dealer or the seller makes an error in spelling out your address, then the V5 may never arrive, but the positive benefit of that is that NIPS never arrive either

pavarotti1980

6,348 posts

114 months

Friday 13th October 2017
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catso said:
First time I did it was just under 2 years ago, bought a car for my Son and the seller did the change online. I'd never heard of it before but have used it since and wouldn't use the postal service again as you get an immediate confirmation.

My other Son bought a car last year and the dealer insisted on using the postal service, he never did get the the V5 so had to apply for a replacement. Presumably it got lost by either the dealer, Royal Mail or DVLA?

The odd thing about the service is that you can only do it during working hours?

https://www.gov.uk/sold-bought-vehicle
It must be a manned service then with human approval

SantaBarbara

3,244 posts

138 months

Friday 13th October 2017
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pavarotti1980 said:
It must be a manned service then with human approval
The politically correct word to use these days instead is STAFFED

Sheepshanks

41,125 posts

149 months

Friday 13th October 2017
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pavarotti1980 said:
catso said:
First time I did it was just under 2 years ago, bought a car for my Son and the seller did the change online. I'd never heard of it before but have used it since and wouldn't use the postal service again as you get an immediate confirmation.

My other Son bought a car last year and the dealer insisted on using the postal service, he never did get the the V5 so had to apply for a replacement. Presumably it got lost by either the dealer, Royal Mail or DVLA?

The odd thing about the service is that you can only do it during working hours?

https://www.gov.uk/sold-bought-vehicle
It must be a manned service then with human approval
I think it started mid-2015 but was pretty iffy at first. I used it when we gave wife's old car to our son-in-law 1st Sept 2015 and it all worked fine, and, as far as I can remember, as instantly as any online service. Maybe the staff just have to be there in case of query - you wouldn't want to be left dangling with something like this if it went wrong.

Edited by Sheepshanks on Friday 13th October 14:48

egor110

Original Poster:

17,675 posts

233 months

Friday 13th October 2017
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SantaBarbara said:
egor110 said:
Oct 5th i sold a car and posted the log book off to the dvla the same day ( have a pic of the filled in log book with the new owners details )

Oct 7th the new owner has been stopped by the police as it turns out he had no insurance and the car has been seized .

Oct 12th i get a vehicle seizure notice in the post .

As i've sold the car and have sent the log book to the dvla then this has nothing to do with me ?
What does the notice request you to do about it?
It doesn't it just says the cars been seized and where it's being held.

It looks like the procedure is top copy goes to the driver , middle copy goes to the owner ( if it 's different to the driver) and the bottom copy stays with the pc.

I think the guy who bought it was caught with no insurance .

SantaBarbara

3,244 posts

138 months

Friday 13th October 2017
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egor110 said:
It doesn't it just says the cars been seized and where it's being held.

It looks like the procedure is top copy goes to the driver , middle copy goes to the owner ( if it 's different to the driver) and the bottom copy stays with the pc.

I think the guy who bought it was caught with no insurance .
Is there a phone number on the letter?

You could phone them to let them know you are the previous owner, just in case the new owner has not told them

coopedup

3,742 posts

169 months

Friday 13th October 2017
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SantaBarbara said:
pavarotti1980 said:
It must be a manned service then with human approval
The politically correct word to use these days instead is STAFFED
rolleyes

pavarotti1980

6,348 posts

114 months

Friday 13th October 2017
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SantaBarbara said:
The politically correct word to use these days instead is STAFFED
It will be someone with 2 screens. One with sky sports news or pornhub and the other looking at cars being sold