TVP's new points system
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streaky

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19,311 posts

279 months

Wednesday 13th April 2005
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Question for TVP TrafPol driver: You are proceeding along when you see a lorry unloading two illegal immigrants. At the same time, your observer spots a motorist not wearing a seat belt. Do you: (a) arrest the illegal immigrants; or (b) stop the unbelted driver?

The answer of course is (b). You get one more point for this offence.

Question for TVP control room sergeant: You receive information about a fatal accident. The nearest TrafPol has already dealt with three of these and has amassed 150 points. Other TrafPol on duty have not taken the lead in a fatal TRA and are low on points. Do you: (a) assign the nearest car, knowing that they will then have achieved their 200 points target and might ease off; or (b) drag a car half way across the county to ensure equal opportunity in meeting the target?

The answer, of course, is ... [well, I'll leave that to your imagination].

You think I'm joking? Read this:

Thames Valley police insisted yesterday that the purpose of the scheme was to assist officers in setting priorities. Supt Mick Doyle, head of Roads Policing, said yesterday: "The system helps supervisors assess workloads."

The operative words are; "setting priorities" and "assess workloads".

Streaky

towman

14,938 posts

269 months

Wednesday 13th April 2005
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Don`t blame the BiB - blame the Government. They want league tables and performance monitoring for just about everything these days.

s2art

18,942 posts

283 months

Wednesday 13th April 2005
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towman said:
Don`t blame the BiB - blame the Government. They want league tables and performance monitoring for just about everything these days.


Cant we blame both?

towman

14,938 posts

269 months

Wednesday 13th April 2005
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s2art said:

towman said:
Don`t blame the BiB - blame the Government. They want league tables and performance monitoring for just about everything these days.



Cant we blame both?


Not really - do we blame teachers for putting our kids through so much pressure with the sats tests?

rude-boy

22,227 posts

263 months

Wednesday 13th April 2005
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towman said:


s2art said:



towman said:
Don`t blame the BiB - blame the Government. They want league tables and performance monitoring for just about everything these days.





Cant we blame both?




Not really - do we blame teachers for putting our kids through so much pressure with the sats tests?

Opps, sorry forgot to cut and paste!

We can blame the Government and the ‘common man’ who wants answers to evey question and statistics to back those answers up.

T/O I really don’t see the problem with sats tests, sorry. I sat exams in all subjects twice a year in exam conditions and all I noticed was that when the real deal of GCSEs and A levels came about I knew exactly what it was like. Added to this you had a good indicator of how you were doing


>> Edited by rude-boy on Wednesday 13th April 14:40

Flat in Fifth

48,786 posts

281 months

Wednesday 13th April 2005
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rude-boy said:

T/O I really don’t see the problem with sats tests, sorry. I sat exams in all subjects twice a year in exam conditions and all I noticed was that when the real deal of GCSEs and A levels came about I knew exactly what it was like. Added to this you had a good indicator of how you were doing

Seconded, plus you had a damn good revision system sorted by then.

Mind you Latin was another story.

jacobyte

4,768 posts

272 months

Wednesday 13th April 2005
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I had never heard of SATS until I met my GF who has children at state school. I soon discovered that homework is no longer being tested on what you learnt in the day, it is just more learning and you're expected to remember it. It appalls me the amount of home learning they have to do, as the teachers don't often have time to teach it in class as the curriculum is too big.

Teachers are up to their eyeballs in paperwork and spend most of the "holidays" marking or readng and understanding new rules and red tape. They are no longer "educating" children, but teaching them how to pass an exam.

This "target" mentality is really bad for the development of society, and we see it happening everywhere - Police, Hospitals, Etc.

It's down to too many left wing theorists, and not enough "doers" with common sense. Time for a bit of right-wing balance methinks - 05/05/05.

>> Edited by jacobyte on Wednesday 13th April 16:05

towman

14,938 posts

269 months

Wednesday 13th April 2005
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jacobyte said:
Wot I Meant to say


Only far more eloquently.

hornet

6,333 posts

280 months

Wednesday 13th April 2005
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Next on BBC1, Catch of the Day, with edited highlights of all the TVP action for the week, including a fantastic contest between mobile phone offences and knife carrying.

You couldn't make it up...

God knows how the front line BiB must feel about this nonsense.

randlemarcus

13,646 posts

261 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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Cheers Hornet,
Just read the post, and turned over, only to see that Scottish TW@t Connolly riding a trike with nothing on. We say Hell NO

^Slider^

2,874 posts

279 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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We dont make the rules....

I cant honestly see any of the traffpol based where i am making a choice based on the points system.

Alot of us are in the job for the right reasons - some are not.

There arnt that many whom are in it for the points or kudos.

streaky

Original Poster:

19,311 posts

279 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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^Slider^ said:
We dont make the rules....

I cant honestly see any of the traffpol based where i am making a choice based on the points system.

Alot of us are in the job for the right reasons - some are not.

There arnt that many whom are in it for the points or kudos.


It's political compliance driven by BLiar's "target" mentality (that hasn't worked anywhere yet!):
Thames Valley police insisted yesterday that the purpose of the scheme was to assist officers in setting priorities. Supt Mick Doyle, head of Roads Policing, said yesterday: "The system helps supervisors assess workloads."

Wait until someone starts cribbing because they're never directed to a fatal RTA, or all they ever see are illegal immigrants, shoplifters, people breaching bail conditions, mentally ill people or pedestrians on the motorway!

Streaky

>> Edited by streaky on Thursday 14th April 08:32

autismuk

1,529 posts

270 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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towman said:
Don`t blame the BiB - blame the Government. They want league tables and performance monitoring for just about everything these days.


I suspect this is a TVP idea though. It might be a pilot.