What does this road sign mean?

[Dicky Knee]

Exiting The Orsett Cock Roundabout onto the A13 westbound there is a circular blue sign with a white cross. Like a clearway sign but white instead of red. I don't recall seeing one before and just had a look in my daughter's Highway Code book and can't find it in there either.

Obviously I will be surrendering my Driving Licence to the Police first thing tomorrow for being a danger on the road for not knowing my road signs but before I do I'd really like to know what it is.

[Efbe]

um, that shouldn't exist?!?!

could the red have faded?

edit:
is it this? https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.5055008,0.380175...
looks like the sign has faded here(2016 image), if you go forward one step it looks red(2012 image)

Edited by Efbe on Sunday 26th November 22:30

[Dicky Knee]

That's the one. Looks pink in the photo but completely white now.

I'll hang on to my licence then.

Thanks.

[Efbe]

that's some damn crap paint they have been using

[RATATTAK]

If you look carefully there's a whitish-grey cross on the road also

[Efbe]

that's some damn crap paint they have been using

[Efbe]

RATATTAK said:

If you look carefully there's a whitish-grey cross on the road also

lol

[bearman68]

Doesn't it mean you are in Scotland?

[Pica-Pica]

Efbe said:

that's some damn crap paint they have been using

Same as with the faded give way lines, in reverse view. Faded give-way lines are a menace.

[esxste]

If you go a few yards down the slipway, you come accross my all time favourite sign:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.5057887,0.379188...

[Riley Blue]

How about these two, they've been like this for years:

[chow pan toon]

bearman68 said:

Doesn't it mean you are in Scotland?

[FlyingFin]

Your'e all wrong...


Its a new Clearway sign which is been trialled in a few places in the UK for the forthcoming 'snowy weather' season.


The only difference is that you can stop on the clearway, if the snow is so heavy it prevents you from proceeding any further, without committing an offence,

UNLESS,

you are in a 4X4 and haven't made a valiant attempt to get home, or have made it home.

In that case you will be prosecuted and sent to prison for three months or until the snowy weather clears which ever is the longer... and will be banned from owning and driving a 4X4 for life.


Essex has been picked to trial these areas due to the ridiculously high number of Chelsea Tractors in the county.


You can tell these trial areas as the Red X (not to be confused with the motor oil of the same name) has been changed to a White X on the usual blue circular background to denote the 'snowy weather' exemptions.


See how many you can spot in your travels...



FF

[DIW35]

Riley Blue said:

How about these two, they've been like this for years:

I'm guessing those 30 signs don't meet the specifications laid down for speed limit signs, so I wonder what luck you would have contesting a speeding prosecution after entering the area past them.

[Ed/L152]

Street lighting without any signage implies 30 anyway, doesn't it?

[RATATTAK]

Ed/L152 said:

Street lighting without any signage implies 30 anyway, doesn't it?

I thought that but not any longer (learnt on one of my speed awareness courses)

[giantdefy]

RATATTAK said:

Ed/L152 said:

Street lighting without any signage implies 30 anyway, doesn't it?

I thought that but not any longer (learnt on one of my speed awareness courses)

You must have misheard or misremembered:

Section 82(1)(a) (of the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984 (RTRA 1984)) defines a restricted road in England and Wales as a road which is provided with “a system of street lighting furnished by means of lamps placed not more than 200 yards apart”. Section 81 specifically makes it an offence for a person to drive a motor vehicle at a speed of more than 30 mph on a restricted road.

[RATATTAK]

giantdefy said:

RATATTAK said:

Ed/L152 said:

Street lighting without any signage implies 30 anyway, doesn't it?

I thought that but not any longer (learnt on one of my speed awareness courses)

You must have misheard or misremembered:

Section 82(1)(a) (of the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984 (RTRA 1984)) defines a restricted road in England and Wales as a road which is provided with “a system of street lighting furnished by means of lamps placed not more than 200 yards apart”. Section 81 specifically makes it an offence for a person to drive a motor vehicle at a speed of more than 30 mph on a restricted road.

Well I deffo heard it ... the guy leading the course must have been wrong

[FlyingFin]

[redacted]

[Mill Wheel]

FlyingFin said:

That's correct, but there is still a requirement to have a 30 MPH limit sign as you enter the 30 MPH restriction. Once in the restriction, there is no requirement for any further signage as long as the lamp posts are within 200 yds of each other.

You will often see repeater signs in 30 limits which have the correctly spaced lamp posts but these are as an 'extra' to remind you of the limit you are in and not a requirement.

Incorrect.
The law does not allow highway authorities to put repeater speed limit signs on 30 mph roads that have street lights... UNLESS they apply for specific permission from the secretary of state.
Any that ARE placed without that permission are in contravention of the law. There are some in Endmoor, a village in Cumbria with streetlights placed less than 183 metres apart. They should not be there.
VAS limit signs are allowed as a reminder, or warning of a specific hazard.

Traffic authorities have a duty to erect and maintain prescribed speed limit signs on their roads in accordance with the Secretary of State’s directions.

That makes those 30 mph limit signs where the red has faded, unenforceable, specifically by the wording in the legislation.