Turn off your fog lights!
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DaGuv

Original Poster:

451 posts

236 months

Tuesday 5th December 2017
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Ever since the clocks changed and its got darker earlier I have noticed a massive increase in the amount of idiots using front fog lights despite there being no fog. Whats the law on using them in clear weather. It does my head in!

megaphone

11,679 posts

281 months

Tuesday 5th December 2017
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I'm really struggling these days with dazzling front lights, not just 'fog' lights. Normal dipped beam on modern cars are way too bright and way to high, may as well run with full beam there's little difference. Just don't get why manufacturers are allowed to produce cars with headlamps so bright and so badly focused.

Gavia

7,627 posts

121 months

Tuesday 5th December 2017
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Front fog lights can’t dazzle you, they shine into the ground. They’re absolutely useless if you’re driving though, as they don’t illuminate the road in front other than a few feet.

People are dicks and follow trends willingly. Look how many in here now use “where”instead of “were”, which is completely unforgivable.

wazztie16

1,683 posts

161 months

Tuesday 5th December 2017
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Never mind front fog lights, I was behind 2 vehicles in one night the other night with rear fog lights on.

Not been any fog for a couple months, and no amount of snow or rain to make someone want to put them on.

Suppose it's better than driving with no lights on...

anonymous-user

84 months

Tuesday 5th December 2017
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Gavia said:
Front fog lights can’t dazzle you, they shine into the ground. They’re absolutely useless if you’re driving though, as they don’t illuminate the road in front other than a few feet.

People are dicks and follow trends willingly. Look how many in here now use “where”instead of “were”, which is completely unforgivable.
The use of "where" instead of "were" is a trend?

Gavia

7,627 posts

121 months

Tuesday 5th December 2017
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REALIST123 said:
The use of "where" instead of "were" is a trend?
It seems to be on here, more and more people are doing it amd it’s pathetic. Ditto the use of myself, instead of me, brought for bought and so on.

BlueMeganeII

338 posts

189 months

Tuesday 5th December 2017
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A large number of cars seem to have drls where the fog lights are, particularly lower end models and cars that didn’t have drls designed as part of the headlights. Some also have split ‘fog light’ where part is a driving light and the other the fog light.

I imagine they’ll reduce now lost newer models have them in the headlight as a great big bling led light or near to the headlight.

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah

13,240 posts

130 months

Tuesday 5th December 2017
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wazztie16 said:
Never mind front fog lights, I was behind 2 vehicles in one night the other night with rear fog lights on.

Not been any fog for a couple months, and no amount of snow or rain to make someone want to put them on.

Suppose it's better than driving with no lights on...
That one's quite easily resolved. A few courtesy flashes, in case of in error, and if not switch to full beam. There you go, how do you like your retinas being burnt out, not nice is it!

Gavia

7,627 posts

121 months

Tuesday 5th December 2017
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Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:
That one's quite easily resolved. A few courtesy flashes, in case of in error, and if not switch to full beam. There you go, how do you like your retinas being burnt out, not nice is it!
That assumes that the person in front is using their mirror and also that they don’t have the auto dim function on their mirror.

anonymous-user

84 months

Tuesday 5th December 2017
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I agree that standard dip beams have increased significantly in brightness over the last couple of years but the beam control doesn't seem very good. On a bumpy road it is like they are flashing their main beam all the time.

Plus you get the people who use their main beam all the time despite having really bright and clear dip beam, constantly trying and no doubt succeeding in blinding on-coming drivers.

Do modern cars actually need a main beam anymore?

Monkeylegend

29,321 posts

261 months

Tuesday 5th December 2017
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Gavia said:
REALIST123 said:
The use of "where" instead of "were" is a trend?
It seems to be on here, more and more people are doing it amd it’s pathetic. Ditto the use of myself, instead of me, brought for bought and so on.
amd for and, so pathetic, only a loon would do that wink

rambo19

2,959 posts

167 months

Tuesday 5th December 2017
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Lack of enforcement, pure and simple.

Mexman

2,442 posts

114 months

Tuesday 5th December 2017
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Not this st AGAIN.....

loose cannon

6,057 posts

271 months

Tuesday 5th December 2017
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Funnily enough in my mk2 cavalier a couple of years ago, I could drive all night with it on high beam without anybody noticing, never got flashed once, the same car on low beam then switch the front fogs on and morons in new Mercedes and bmw’s With atomic flash spec headlights would go into instant meltdown
Funny old world isn’t it

CoolC

4,505 posts

244 months

Tuesday 5th December 2017
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wazztie16 said:
Never mind front fog lights, I was behind 2 vehicles in one night the other night with rear fog lights on.

Not been any fog for a couple months, and no amount of snow or rain to make someone want to put them on.

Suppose it's better than driving with no lights on...
I don't give a stuff about front fogs as they rarely dazzle unless they are very badly aligned/damaged.

Rear fogs on the other hand drive me mental. The amount of idiots with no thought of those around them on the roads with them on in the slightest bit of mist, or leave them on once they are through the 100m patch of fog is ridiculous.

If you can see the car in front's tail lights then there is no need for you to have yours on! mad

Ardennes92

717 posts

110 months

Tuesday 5th December 2017
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I know it depends where in the country you live, but I can't remember the last time I needed to put any fogs on, front or rear. As said earlier, if you can see others side lights on, then you don't need any on

HaydnFisher

42 posts

107 months

Tuesday 5th December 2017
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My dad's DRL's on his Leaf are where fog lights should be, but most cars with DRL's have automatic headlights, how is there such a problem?

anonymous-user

84 months

Tuesday 5th December 2017
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The eye-piercingly bright led laser adaptive moving thingy headlights are far worse than fog lights. Rarely see anyone with fogs on but those self moving headlights are the bane of my existence.

Solocle

4,209 posts

114 months

Tuesday 5th December 2017
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As others have said, I find the rear fogs much more of an issue. Personally, there are times at night that I will turn my fronts on. They only illuminate the road surface for a few yards ahead of me - but it gives me a better view of the road surface. They don't hurt anybody.
People who leave their rear fogs on though... And people who don't dip their full beam for the vehicle in front. I once put my car into reverse sat at some lights to give them the message, as no combination of rear fog lights and brake lights had the desired effect. Surprisingly, they worked it out after they had a white light in their face!

Gavia

7,627 posts

121 months

Tuesday 5th December 2017
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Solocle said:
As others have said, I find the rear fogs much more of an issue. Personally, there are times at night that I will turn my fronts on. They only illuminate the road surface for a few yards ahead of me - but it gives me a better view of the road surface. They don't hurt anybody.
People who leave their rear fogs on though... And people who don't dip their full beam for the vehicle in front. I once put my car into reverse sat at some lights to give them the message, as no combination of rear fog lights and brake lights had the desired effect. Surprisingly, they worked it out after they had a white light in their face!
Why do you need to see the road surface just in front of you? Surely you’re looking hundreds of yards up the road?