A Festive Reminder for Visitors to Scotland

[grumpyscot]

Please remember that the drink drive limit in Scotland is 50 milligrams of alcohol for every 100 millilitres of blood in your body. 22 micrograms of alcohol for every 100 millilitres of breath.

As a reminder: England & Wales is 80 milligrammes of alcohol per 100 millilitres of blood, 35 microgrammes per 100 millilitres of breath

Police Scotland has declared a war on drink drivers over the festive period, so please, be warned.

[abzmike]

Not sure what your point is... folks, don’t drink and drive.
Oh, and be careful in the morning.

[BertBert]

I think you are sure

abzmike said:

Not sure what your point is... folks, don’t drink and drive.
Oh, and be careful in the morning.

[Red Devil]

grumpyscot said:

Police Scotland has declared a war on drink drivers over the festive period, so please, be warned.

http://www.scotland.police.uk/whats-happening/news/2017/december/zero-tolerance-drink-driving-warning
Why has Dumfries and Galloway been singled out for mention?

[mybrainhurts]

grumpyscot said:

Please remember that the drink drive limit in Scotland is 50 milligrams of alcohol .....England & Wales is 80 milligrammes

This is what happens when you have government by control freak handwrigers....

Has it actually reduced the number of DRUNK drivers?

[XDA]

Red Devil said:

http://www.scotland.police.uk/whats-happening/news...
Why has Dumfries and Galloway been singled out for mention?

Possibly because it's on the border with England so there are lots of cross border drivers?

What's legal in Carlisle would be illegal 15 minutes later when you drive through Gretna. Or English visitors to D&G not aware of the lower Scottish limit.

Edited by XDA on Sunday 17th December 02:31

[XDA]

mybrainhurts said:

Has it actually reduced the number of DRUNK drivers?

If the statistics are to be believed then no it hasn't.

[codenamecueball]

mybrainhurts said:

This is what happens when you have government by control freak handwrigers....

Has it actually reduced the number of DRUNK drivers?

It's definitely stopped people "just having one"

[MDL111]

Interesting - did not know there were different limits England vs Scotland

[Stout99]

mybrainhurts said:

grumpyscot said:

Please remember that the drink drive limit in Scotland is 50 milligrams of alcohol .....England & Wales is 80 milligrammes

This is what happens when you have government by control freak handwrigers....

Has it actually reduced the number of DRUNK drivers?

Well if you keep the enforcement at the same level and lower the threshold for prosecution it is not at all surprising that in the first instance the rate of the detection of offenders will increase.
It is no surprise your brain hurts.

[Red Devil]

XDA said:

Red Devil said:

http://www.scotland.police.uk/whats-happening/news...
Why has Dumfries and Galloway been singled out for mention?

Possibly because it's on the border with England so there are lots of cross border drivers?

Yes, but so is Borders which has 3 major roads A68, A697, and A1.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Scottish+Borde...

XDA said:

What's legal in Carlisle would be illegal 15 minutes later when you drive through Gretna. Or English visitors to D&G not aware of the lower Scottish limit.

The same would apply to the other cross border roads above, so it just semed a bit odd to me that only D&G got the nod.

[RogueTrooper]

A scan of news articles suggests that D&G has historically had higher drink-drive rates than other areas of Scotland.

[Red 4]

What figures do they charge at in Scotland though ?

England and Wales is 40 and above (for breath).

40-50 provides the option for blood/ urine.

[imagineifyeswill]

Im Scottish and live in Scotland though am certainly not a supporter of the SNP and there divisive politics. As has been said what is legal in Carlisle is illegal 15 minutes away in Gretna, this in my opinion was Sturgeons whole plan, meaning that England and Wales will eventually have to follow suit and lower there limits. If she cant get independance then its a case off I,ll make them fit in with me rather than fit in with them.

In the same vein when David Camerons government broached the idea that motorway speed limits were a bit archaic compared with the perfomance of modern vehicles and should perhaps be raised to 80mph, Alex Salmond immediately countered that it wouldnt be happening in Scotland he wanted the limit lowered to 60mph.

Edited by imagineifyeswill on Sunday 17th December 17:51

[anonymous-user]

imagineifyeswill said:

meaning that England and Wales will eventually have to follow suit and lower there limits.

not really, it happens all over the world, in Europe, Northern Ireland and Ireland different laws. We are the United Kingdom but still have some variations in laws.

[imagineifyeswill]

Yes but Northern Ireland is part of the UK whilst the republic isnt, despite the wishes of the SNP scotland is still part of the UK and its absolutely ridiculous that when you pass a certain line in the road that motoring laws should change, and its just bloody mindedness by the present incumbent of the Scottish Assembly. ( I refuse to call them a parliament, they only speak for a minority in Scotland )

[LaurasOtherHalf]

Red Devil said:

XDA said:

Red Devil said:

http://www.scotland.police.uk/whats-happening/news...
Why has Dumfries and Galloway been singled out for mention?

Possibly because it's on the border with England so there are lots of cross border drivers?

Yes, but so is Borders which has 3 major roads A68, A697, and A1.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Scottish+Borde...

XDA said:

What's legal in Carlisle would be illegal 15 minutes later when you drive through Gretna. Or English visitors to D&G not aware of the lower Scottish limit.

The same would apply to the other cross border roads above, so it just semed a bit odd to me that only D&G got the nod.

We went to Gretna today after my staff night out last night. Albeit at 11am I still got my wife to drive. Personally at the eastern side I feel that the A1 really reduces in traffic whereas on our side it's pretty much the main route into Scotland. The amount of traffic must be more by a huge percentage.

[imagineifyeswill]

Your absoutely right in what you say, an awful lot of people dont like to use the northern section of the A1, I know plenty people going south will take the A9 from Perth to Stirling then M80 on to M73 then M74 to M6 then turn off at Penrith across the A66 to Scotch corner and then South on the A1 , taking the same route in reverse coming back.

[CraigyMc]

imagineifyeswill said:

Yes but Northern Ireland is part of the UK whilst the republic isnt, despite the wishes of the SNP scotland is still part of the UK and its absolutely ridiculous that when you pass a certain line in the road that motoring laws should change, and its just bloody mindedness by the present incumbent of the Scottish Assembly. ( I refuse to call them a parliament, they only speak for a minority in Scotland )

Scot here.

Scotland has always had a separate legal system to the rest of the UK and will continue to do so. It's got hee-haw to do with the Scottish Parliament.

[Yipper]

They like a drink north of the border, so lowering the DUI limit makes sense.

Since the limit was lowered, Scotland has seen a 10-20% reduction in alcohol-related vehicle deaths.