Displaying trade plates.
Discussion
So, recently friends of mine have been pulled over and told their front trade plate has to cover the plate on the car, some have even been reported for it.
Got my renewal through today from DVLA and it states on the back that the front plate must not be covered.
Can someone on here advise?
Current traffic officer?
Got the renewal in my bag in case I'm stopped.
Got my renewal through today from DVLA and it states on the back that the front plate must not be covered.
Can someone on here advise?
Current traffic officer?
Got the renewal in my bag in case I'm stopped.
All the garages here always have the trade plates covering the front plate. I am told this is because when a car is on a test drive it can be picked up on the ANPR cameras. A few of the garages were getting fines for using untaxed vehicles on the road. Don't know how true this is but it seems plausible as all the cars I see using trade plates cover the front plate with them.
MuscleSaloon said:
Quick Google threw this up ...
'' In the instance where trade plates are fitted to a registered vehicle, both registration and trade plates must both be visible in unison. ''
Thank you, this is what I've always thought.'' In the instance where trade plates are fitted to a registered vehicle, both registration and trade plates must both be visible in unison. ''
Many people have bought plate holders that cover the original, because they've been stopped and cautioned/fined.
Seems to be North London my friends have been pulled in.
Literally just posted our TP licence renewals earlier today so not got a form to look at.
This was from Feb 2017 ....
'' The Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (DVLA) and FTA have agreed new guidance on the display of trade plates. The issue has caused members concern for some time, especially since the removal of the vehicle excise disc. The new guidance will say that:
trade plates can be displayed anywhere on a vehicle providing they are both visible and vertical on both the front and rear; they cannot be displayed inside the vehicle as reflections from the glass will restrict visibility
trade plates should not cover the vehicle’s existing number plates as this could have a negative impact on road safety and enforcement
New guidance will be published to coincide with renewal dates and will be updated on relevant trade licence forms and on the gov.uk website. DVLA has agreed that motorbikes will be exempt from the new guidance until such a time as a tested prototype trade plate is agreed ''
This was from Feb 2017 ....
'' The Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (DVLA) and FTA have agreed new guidance on the display of trade plates. The issue has caused members concern for some time, especially since the removal of the vehicle excise disc. The new guidance will say that:
trade plates can be displayed anywhere on a vehicle providing they are both visible and vertical on both the front and rear; they cannot be displayed inside the vehicle as reflections from the glass will restrict visibility
trade plates should not cover the vehicle’s existing number plates as this could have a negative impact on road safety and enforcement
New guidance will be published to coincide with renewal dates and will be updated on relevant trade licence forms and on the gov.uk website. DVLA has agreed that motorbikes will be exempt from the new guidance until such a time as a tested prototype trade plate is agreed ''
TallPaul said:
I’m sure the regulations have recently changed but cant find any reference. Used to be trade plates must cover the original registration, throwing them on the dash/parcel shelf was not allowed although almost everybody did this. Now the cars registration must not be covered.
Thank you, that could make sense if it's recently been changed, DVLA really need to tell the people who've invested in plates that cover up the originals.It was in small print on the back of my renewal, hope they've told the Police..
TallPaul said:
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...
Paragraph 4 “Display of Trade Plates”
Motorcycles - has anyone ever seen a bike with a trade plate? I don't recall ever seeing one! Maybe that's because most times I see one on a car it's being delivered by a trade plater and no-one rides bikes to deliver them as it's easier to put them in a van. Paragraph 4 “Display of Trade Plates”
HantsRat said:
Biggest problem is someone throwing 1 trade plate on the front dash inside the car. None in the rear also. They need to be outside front and rear and vertical.
Although these days it's more difficult to do that - when cars had proper bumpers you could put them on with the rubber straps but there's not much to hook them onto now.HantsRat said:
Biggest problem is someone throwing 1 trade plate on the front dash inside the car. None in the rear also. They need to be outside front and rear and vertical.
If it's good enough for normal plates...https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
TooMany2cvs said:
If it's good enough for normal plates...
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
They always get a £100 FPN when I see them. https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
john2443 said:
Although these days it's more difficult to do that - when cars had proper bumpers you could put them on with the rubber straps but there's not much to hook them onto now.
Here to help... https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/322723013074?chn=ps&a...
HantsRat said:
TooMany2cvs said:
If it's good enough for normal plates...
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
They always get a £100 FPN when I see them. https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
I'm still getting mixed responses on this from the DVLA and TrafPol.
DVLA have suggested that the trade plate should cover the reg plate, because that prevents their ANPR system issuing SJP notices for driving whilst SORN'd - of which I get 3 or 4 a month, even though the evidential photograph show the trade plate on the dashboard or strapped to the grill.
TrafPol have pulled a number of my vehicles for covering the trade plate, but they have said the original plate needs to be on display as well as the trade plate.
I ldo enjoy setting TrafPol onto the DVLA and let them discuss it, but it's quite a lot of arsing around with paperwork to deal; with SJP notices.
So the right answer depends on who you ask....
DVLA have suggested that the trade plate should cover the reg plate, because that prevents their ANPR system issuing SJP notices for driving whilst SORN'd - of which I get 3 or 4 a month, even though the evidential photograph show the trade plate on the dashboard or strapped to the grill.
TrafPol have pulled a number of my vehicles for covering the trade plate, but they have said the original plate needs to be on display as well as the trade plate.
I ldo enjoy setting TrafPol onto the DVLA and let them discuss it, but it's quite a lot of arsing around with paperwork to deal; with SJP notices.
So the right answer depends on who you ask....
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