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GREGA said:
Hi, looking for a heads up, in amongst the Xmas cards was a speeding fine, def me, 48 in a 30, I thought it was a 40, checked and it’s a 30.
What’s the likely fine etc, trying to pacify the wife!
I currently have a clean licence.
Thanks
£100, 3pt FPN - or a half-day of tea and biscuits for £90ish.What’s the likely fine etc, trying to pacify the wife!
I currently have a clean licence.
Thanks
giantdefy said:
You will be offered a course if you haven't done one in the last 3 years otherwise £100 and 3 points
48/30 is too fast for a course and one course every three years is not quite correct as there are multiple speed awareness courses:NSAC
NSAC20 (20 mph)
Motorway SAC
Various places not in the national scheme
OddCat said:
giantdefy said:
You will be offered a course if you haven't done one in the last 3 years otherwise £100 and 3 points
That table is as clear as mud !For a 30
<35 your ok
35 to 50 is a fixed penalty unless your in the window for sac and haven't done one recently, 50+ day in court
TooMany2cvs said:
OddCat said:
That table is as clear as mud !
Really? Seems very clear to meBlue column. At 30mph you will get an FPN AT 35mph. It doesn't say FROM 35mph. Column is called "fixed penalty when education is not appropriate" but I think they mean "starting point for fixed penalty or education alternative". Is this saying that, in a 30 limit, between 35 and 50 there is a sub set of 35 to 42 for SAC and another band between 42 and 50 which is FPN ? Because that isn't what it is actually saying.
Pink column. What the hell is "in all other cases " ? What happens at 49 in 30 ? What is the point of this being 50 in a 30.
Etc etc....
TooMany2cvs said:
OddCat said:
Okay. Let's look at what it says (rather than how you are interpreting it)
Blue column. At 30mph you will get an FPN AT 35mph. It doesn't say FROM 35mph.
Sorry, you're suggesting that you interpret that as "35mph, and only 35mph. Not 36mph."?Blue column. At 30mph you will get an FPN AT 35mph. It doesn't say FROM 35mph.
And, i forgot to mention, the text in yellow appears under specific columns inappropriately.
Like I said. Clear as mud
OddCat said:
TooMany2cvs said:
OddCat said:
Okay. Let's look at what it says (rather than how you are interpreting it)
Blue column. At 30mph you will get an FPN AT 35mph. It doesn't say FROM 35mph.
Sorry, you're suggesting that you interpret that as "35mph, and only 35mph. Not 36mph."?Blue column. At 30mph you will get an FPN AT 35mph. It doesn't say FROM 35mph.
And, i forgot to mention, the text in yellow appears under specific columns inappropriately.
Like I said. Clear as mud
Gary C said:
It's simple
For a 30
<35 you’re ok
35 to 50 is a fixed penalty unless you’re in the window for sac and haven't done one recently, 50+ day in court
The same SAC.For a 30
<35 you’re ok
35 to 50 is a fixed penalty unless you’re in the window for sac and haven't done one recently, 50+ day in court
Not quite as a SJPN does not mean a day in court.
Also, 35 to 49 mph. Not 35 to 50.
Edited by agtlaw on Saturday 23 December 17:19
Yes Gavia, of course it is crystal clear....
...which is why, on the third post on this thread, giantdefy said :
...which is why, on the third post on this thread, giantdefy said :
giantdefy said:
You will be offered a course if you haven't done one in the last 3 years otherwise £100 and 3 points
...for 48 in a 30. And he was he one who first posted the table !!Edited by OddCat on Saturday 23 December 17:10
TooMany2cvs said:
Really? Seems very clear to me.
If your speed is within the blue column, you're laughing.
Within the green columns, you're up for tea and biccies, if it's available to you/in your area.
Red columns, get the suit to the cleaners.
The chart was obviously written years ago - as it refers to a summons. SJPN these days. You won’t need a suit for a hearing you can’t attend.If your speed is within the blue column, you're laughing.
Within the green columns, you're up for tea and biccies, if it's available to you/in your area.
Red columns, get the suit to the cleaners.
OddCat said:
Yes Gavia, of course it is crystal clear....
...which is why, on the third post on this thread, giantdefy said :
Then he either can’t read, or made an honest mistake. I have no problem reading that table at all amd your assertions over the FPN only being offered for 35, because that’s how it’s worded is pretty poor. ...which is why, on the third post on this thread, giantdefy said :
giantdefy said:
You will be offered a course if you haven't done one in the last 3 years otherwise £100 and 3 points
...for 48 in a 30. And he was he one who first posted the table !!Edited by OddCat on Saturday 23 December 17:10
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