Using paper driving licence abroad
Using paper driving licence abroad
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V10 SPM

Original Poster:

606 posts

281 months

Saturday 6th January 2018
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I still have an old style paper driving licence. Will this be acceptable alongside an International Driving Permit when driving abroad or do you think I will have problems?

33q

1,628 posts

153 months

Saturday 6th January 2018
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I have used mine in the Channel Islands without any problems. I did check first.

Jurassic pork

246 posts

202 months

Saturday 6th January 2018
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I use mine in Cyprus with no issues.

a.lex

165 posts

107 months

Saturday 6th January 2018
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Where are you planning to drive? Only place I have been that actually required an IDP was UAE.

V10 SPM

Original Poster:

606 posts

281 months

Saturday 6th January 2018
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a.lex said:
Where are you planning to drive? Only place I have been that actually required an IDP was UAE.
Russia.

98elise

32,658 posts

191 months

Saturday 6th January 2018
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I've used mine in the US, Greece, Spain and the Canaries.

It's never been questioned and it's held together with selotape.

catso

16,464 posts

297 months

Saturday 6th January 2018
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98elise said:
I've used mine in the US, Greece, Spain and the Canaries.

It's never been questioned and it's held together with selotape.
Mine too, never had a problem although any Police action will probably require to see some photo ID but then you'll have your passport anyway...

a.lex

165 posts

107 months

Sunday 7th January 2018
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catso said:
98elise said:
I've used mine in the US, Greece, Spain and the Canaries.

It's never been questioned and it's held together with selotape.
Mine too, never had a problem although any Police action will probably require to see some photo ID but then you'll have your passport anyway...
Do you guys know what an IDP is? It is nothing but a translation of a valid driving licence. Without the valid driving licence, it is literally of no consequence. And they're only valid for 12 months, so what are you carrying around to the verge of destruction?

The AA has a useful list: https://www.theaa.com/driving-advice/driving-abroa...
The RAC has another: https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/travel/driving-abroad/...

ianwayne

8,565 posts

298 months

Sunday 7th January 2018
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The UAE used to be weird about it. I turned up at a hire car desk (pre-booked for me) in Dubai but without an international driving permit, they wouldn't let me have the car!

This was a few years ago so it may have changed.

98elise

32,658 posts

191 months

Sunday 7th January 2018
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a.lex said:
catso said:
98elise said:
I've used mine in the US, Greece, Spain and the Canaries.

It's never been questioned and it's held together with selotape.
Mine too, never had a problem although any Police action will probably require to see some photo ID but then you'll have your passport anyway...
Do you guys know what an IDP is? It is nothing but a translation of a valid driving licence. Without the valid driving licence, it is literally of no consequence. And they're only valid for 12 months, so what are you carrying around to the verge of destruction?

The AA has a useful list: https://www.theaa.com/driving-advice/driving-abroa...
The RAC has another: https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/travel/driving-abroad/...
I think you're confused. I'm carrying around my old style paper licence which has never been a problem in any country I've visited. I've never had an IDP.

It's falling to pieces because it's about 25 years old.

Mrs Muttleysnoop

1,417 posts

214 months

Sunday 7th January 2018
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98elise said:
a.lex said:
catso said:
98elise said:
I've used mine in the US, Greece, Spain and the Canaries.

It's never been questioned and it's held together with selotape.
Mine too, never had a problem although any Police action will probably require to see some photo ID but then you'll have your passport anyway...
Do you guys know what an IDP is? It is nothing but a translation of a valid driving licence. Without the valid driving licence, it is literally of no consequence. And they're only valid for 12 months, so what are you carrying around to the verge of destruction?

The AA has a useful list: https://www.theaa.com/driving-advice/driving-abroa...
The RAC has another: https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/travel/driving-abroad/...
I think you're confused. I'm carrying around my old style paper licence which has never been a problem in any country I've visited. I've never had an IDP.

It's falling to pieces because it's about 25 years old.
Mine is also stuck together with selotape and is 50 years old!!!

catso

16,464 posts

297 months

Sunday 7th January 2018
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98elise said:
I think you're confused. I'm carrying around my old style paper licence which has never been a problem in any country I've visited. I've never had an IDP.

It's falling to pieces because it's about 25 years old.
Likewise, I've driven in many different countries and never had an IDP or been asked to produce one.

a.lex

165 posts

107 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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98elise said:
I think you're confused. I'm carrying around my old style paper licence which has never been a problem in any country I've visited. I've never had an IDP.
Sure looks that way now...

TooLateForAName

4,932 posts

214 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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I used mine when stopped in Jordan.

Police pretended to read it for 5 mins (were holding it upside down) before letting me go.

westmoorfarm

78 posts

267 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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I have used my taped together 35 year old paper licence recently in Portugal, Greece, Iceland, and USA without any issue.

Algarve

2,102 posts

111 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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For £20 or whatever just get a modern license. Trying to explain to some Russian cop at the side of the road that this tatty old piece of paper is your driving license doesn't sound like fun. Nothing a little bribe won't sort though.

Expect problems at the hire desk too if you're renting. Nothing a little bribe won't sort though.

I don't get why people are still holding to these old licenses. I'd far rather have good photo id in my wallet should I need it, and never need to worry about hire car hassles and the like.

98elise

32,658 posts

191 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
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Algarve said:
For £20 or whatever just get a modern license. Trying to explain to some Russian cop at the side of the road that this tatty old piece of paper is your driving license doesn't sound like fun. Nothing a little bribe won't sort though.

Expect problems at the hire desk too if you're renting. Nothing a little bribe won't sort though.

I don't get why people are still holding to these old licenses. I'd far rather have good photo id in my wallet should I need it, and never need to worry about hire car hassles and the like.
I didn't swap to plastic because you previously had to have a paper counterpart, and they expire every 10 years.

I don't have to worry about it, its always worked just fine for me and its never been questioned. I don't remember the last time i was asked for photo id.

When that changes I'll probably swap to plastic.

Gavia

7,627 posts

121 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
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Algarve said:
For £20 or whatever just get a modern license. Trying to explain to some Russian cop at the side of the road that this tatty old piece of paper is your driving license doesn't sound like fun. Nothing a little bribe won't sort though.

Expect problems at the hire desk too if you're renting. Nothing a little bribe won't sort though.

I don't get why people are still holding to these old licenses. I'd far rather have good photo id in my wallet should I need it, and never need to worry about hire car hassles and the like.
Because people like to live off the grid and they don’t have smartphones, or internet at home or .............. oh

I completely agree, the argument seems to be over cost and inconvenience.

Cost is negligible at £14 and anyone who believes £1.40 a year matters is dreaming. It’s also not a stealth tax, as it probably costs as much to produce, maintain and record these as it produces in income.

Inconvenience is totally moot, as having a plastic credit card sized licence is infinitely more convenient than a torn and sellotaped piece of A4. Renewing online takes a few minutes every decade.

Ardennes92

716 posts

110 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
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Paper licence lasts til you are 70, but photo one expires every 10yrs, think update free if you are only updating details (apart from points removal?), so change when expires seems most cost effective; also kept mine because of paper sheet although that has now gone, not sure why it can't have a chip with all details on and plod have a reader with all the other tech in the cars!

Gavia

7,627 posts

121 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
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Ardennes92 said:
Paper licence lasts til you are 70, but photo one expires every 10yrs, think update free if you are only updating details (apart from points removal?), so change when expires seems most cost effective; also kept mine because of paper sheet although that has now gone, not sure why it can't have a chip with all details on and plod have a reader with all the other tech in the cars!
What else do you do to save yourself £1.40 a year? How much of a difference does that amount make to you each year?