“Loading Only” time limits
Discussion
As a former parking officer, vehicles were given 5-10 minutes of no activity seen before issuing a PCN. The fact that you displayed a blue badge won't help you as it is not valid in a loading bay. If you look on the back of the PCN you'll find an address to challenge the ticket. It should remain at the lower tariff until you hear back from the issuing authority.
Definitely woith an appeal to the local authority, and make them aware of the blue badge, along with their obligations under the Equality Act 2010.
I don't recall anythibg in the legislation that dictates how long a period of loading is, but the ticket you received should have a period of observation noted.
I don't recall anythibg in the legislation that dictates how long a period of loading is, but the ticket you received should have a period of observation noted.
Edited by S11Steve on Monday 8th January 22:04
BossHogg said:
The CEO will have stood and observed no loading/unloading taking place before issuing the ticket. OP, how long were you away from your vehicle?
So you unload something,then lock car. Take it to where it’s needs to be delivered (not necessarily close to car) may take 30mins then return to ticket, it’s b
ks. There are loading bays throughout Twickenham and all give you a specified maximum time limit,so that’s what I expect too see and at least there can be no confusion or arguments.
My grandparents used to be in the clothing trade, and back in the 70's and 80's at least, so long as your boot / hatch was open you were loading but the moment you closed it, with the car unattended, you were parked. So they used to make sure that the boot or hatch stayed open, with one person by it to prevent theft, whilst the other was carrying stock from the wholesaler they were buying from. To speed things up they would tag team it but with one person always with the car.
There lies the problem. A car left in a loading bay for thirty minutes unattended isn't loading/unloading, it's parked and liable for a ticket. Loading bays are regularly monitored for abuse as goods vehicle drivers complain that they can't get on to unload as cars park on them. Back to the OP, as already suggested, if I'd have issued the ticket, I'd advise you to challenge the ticket, fully explain you were taking stuff to your boat which was too heavy to carry over distance, explain about your mobility problems, which is why you were delayed returning to your vehicle.
S11Steve said:
Definitely woith an appeal to the local authority, and make them aware of the blue badge, along with their obligations under the Equality Act 2010.
I don't recall anythibg in the legislation that dictates how long a period of loading is, but the ticket you received should have a period of observation noted.
Even the guide given with the blue badge tells you it's not a free for all. I don't recall anythibg in the legislation that dictates how long a period of loading is, but the ticket you received should have a period of observation noted.
largelunchbox said:
I honestly don’t know how they can justify any ticket without any time limits displayed?
Because know your traffic signs stipulates the times ? I'm surprised nowadays the signs don't say loading or unloading to prevent pedants from saying 'I was unloading my vehicle not loading it' or vice versa.
BossHogg said:
It should remain at the lower tariff until you hear back from the issuing authority.
Harrow council once took several months to reply to my appeal and then decided I needed to pay the full amount. I appealed that and it was reduced back down after some back and forth but the cheek of itIf it's issued by machine, there was a five minute default built into ours. That only started after vehicle details had been entered, that takes 1-2 minutes, so that's nearly 7 minutes, I used to allow an extra five minutes. If there was no return to the vehicle in that time, the ticket was issued.
MrJuice said:
BossHogg said:
The CEO will have stood and observed no loading/unloading taking place before issuing the ticket. OP, how long were you away from your vehicle?
Observed for how long?I bet the ticket shows a few minutes observation at the very most
silverfoxcc said:
The loading signs are the same as yellow line restrictions
DYL = no parking 24/7
SYL have times you cannot park
The same with loading signs
no times = no loading 24/7
otherwise times when you cannot will apply eg
no loading 08.00-09.30
16.30-18.00
It really is that simple
If it's that simple maybe you could explain how a sign that says "Loading Only" (no times) actually means, according to you, no loading 24/7 ???DYL = no parking 24/7
SYL have times you cannot park
The same with loading signs
no times = no loading 24/7
otherwise times when you cannot will apply eg
no loading 08.00-09.30
16.30-18.00
It really is that simple
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