BT street furniture - what is reasonable/legal
BT street furniture - what is reasonable/legal
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Loose_Cannon

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1,602 posts

283 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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There are odd locations on our housing estate that keep growing enormous BT boxes and apparatus. What used to be fairly unobtrusive green suitcases can now in some instances be huge and present a reasonable hazard or obstruction. There have been a couple at junctions which have blocked sightlines, and here's this monstrosity where they actually planted a telecom mast as well.



'm sure the Roads and Streetworks act has always allowed for utilities to have street furniture and utility boxes in the highway but it's getting beyond a joke. Just look at how narrow the path is now (on the way to a school/shops as well). As a side issue I reckon in this instance it also encourages landlords to ignore the overgrown boundaries beyond it, they have got a perfect excuse if you challenge them that they are narrowing the footway.

So what constitutes legal/resonable for these things? Is a 25% reduction in pedestrian width acceptable?

esxste

4,292 posts

136 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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I think you're getting your knickers in a twist about nothing.

Pavement looks plenty wide enough to get a pushchair/pram or wheelchair through.

There are more important things in life to worry about... surely?

DarylB90

150 posts

141 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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Loose_Cannon said:
There are odd locations on our housing estate that keep growing enormous BT boxes and apparatus. What used to be fairly unobtrusive green suitcases can now in some instances be huge and present a reasonable hazard or obstruction. There have been a couple at junctions which have blocked sightlines, and here's this monstrosity where they actually planted a telecom mast as well.



'm sure the Roads and Streetworks act has always allowed for utilities to have street furniture and utility boxes in the highway but it's getting beyond a joke. Just look at how narrow the path is now (on the way to a school/shops as well). As a side issue I reckon in this instance it also encourages landlords to ignore the overgrown boundaries beyond it, they have got a perfect excuse if you challenge them that they are narrowing the footway.

So what constitutes legal/resonable for these things? Is a 25% reduction in pedestrian width acceptable?
I wish this was all i had to worry about in life.

SonicShadow

2,452 posts

184 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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Loose_Cannon said:


So what constitutes legal/resonable for these things? Is a 25% reduction in pedestrian width acceptable?
Make sure you complain about those bushes in the background that are encroaching on the footpath by a similar amount.

Matthen

1,452 posts

181 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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esxste said:
I think you're getting your knickers in a twist about nothing.

Pavement looks plenty wide enough to get a pushchair/pram or wheelchair through.

There are more important things in life to worry about... surely?
Looks like the bushes beyond are causing more of an obstruction to me. These boxes are the price of wanting high speed broadband and widespread mobile coverage.

HantsRat

2,409 posts

138 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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None issue if you are referring to that picture. The hedge hangs out more! You can easily walk by on that pavement.

cat with a hat

1,488 posts

148 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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I would suggest you work harder in life so you don't have to live on an estate hehe

Loose_Cannon

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1,602 posts

283 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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Well the little old lady with the tartan shoping trolley in the distance had to wait for a time while a gaggle of dog walkers went past. Surely it's not unreasonable that pedestrians can pass either way on a pavement without being made to wait or walk in the gutter?

Agreed the overgrowth is as big an impediment but what are the owners of that going to point to when challenged?

And yes it may be trivial to you because you're not a little old lady with a tartan shopping trolley, but if we eliminated threads on Pistonheads because the subject matter was trivial to the majority of us it would be pretty fking barren around here!

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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Loose_Cannon said:
There are odd locations on our housing estate that keep growing enormous BT boxes and apparatus. What used to be fairly unobtrusive green suitcases can now in some instances be huge and present a reasonable hazard or obstruction. There have been a couple at junctions which have blocked sightlines, and here's this monstrosity where they actually planted a telecom mast as well.



'm sure the Roads and Streetworks act has always allowed for utilities to have street furniture and utility boxes in the highway but it's getting beyond a joke. Just look at how narrow the path is now (on the way to a school/shops as well). As a side issue I reckon in this instance it also encourages landlords to ignore the overgrown boundaries beyond it, they have got a perfect excuse if you challenge them that they are narrowing the footway.

So what constitutes legal/resonable for these things? Is a 25% reduction in pedestrian width acceptable?
Umm, the pavement's narrower going past the hedge than by the boxes.

Given the mast, are they BT, or are they one of the cell networks?

Loose_Cannon

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1,602 posts

283 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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cat with a hat said:
I would suggest you work harder in life so you don't have to live on an estate hehe
Next time I'm past Balmoral I'll give you a wave wavey

cat with a hat

1,488 posts

148 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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OP can you do a reaction video to these:







esxste

4,292 posts

136 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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Loose_Cannon said:
Well the little old lady with the tartan shoping trolley in the distance had to wait for a time while a gaggle of dog walkers went past. Surely it's not unreasonable that pedestrians can pass either way on a pavement without being made to wait or walk in the gutter?

Agreed the overgrowth is as big an impediment but what are the owners of that going to point to when challenged?

And yes it may be trivial to you because you're not a little old lady with a tartan shopping trolley, but if we eliminated threads on Pistonheads because the subject matter was trivial to the majority of us it would be pretty fking barren around here!
Why do you care?

HantsRat

2,409 posts

138 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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cat with a hat said:
OP can you do a reaction video to these:



What on earth would the poor little tartan trolley lady do?

catso

16,464 posts

297 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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Wish BT would install a cabinet near us, we might get decent internet if they did...

Loose_Cannon

Original Poster:

1,602 posts

283 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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esxste said:
Why do you care?
Why do you care to post here twice?

In fact why is anyone adding to this if they think its trivial? Of course its bleeding trivial. Over on other forums right now there are threads running about headlamp masks for the continent, indicator bulbs for a Ginetta and buying a £50 4 cylinder Vauxhall Omega. Feel free to jog on there telling them their little bits of thread and a thousand like them are trivial too.

Its a casual query to anyone familiar with the RASWA by an occasional visitor and even less occasional poster. If you spend the day waiting for a bell to ping every time a thread pops up so you can chime in and make people look like a tt thats great and well done you.

popeyewhite

23,087 posts

150 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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catso said:
Wish BT would install a cabinet near us, we might get decent internet if they did...
I wouldn't bet on it.

strain

419 posts

131 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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Didn't realise i had an account on mumsnet

Loose_Cannon

Original Poster:

1,602 posts

283 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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cat with a hat said:
OP can you do a reaction video to these:



hehe




megaphone

11,677 posts

281 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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OP I'm with you, too much of this clutter popping up, they could have easily put it back a few feet and hidden them behind some bushes. They also site them in stupid places, at road junctions etc, I've seen quite a few that have been whacked by cars. Yes we need the services, but have some consideration for the environment and the general street scene.

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

200 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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I agree OP.

You should write a sternly worded letter to your local MP and get this kid of thing stopped.