This can't be legal? Milage alterations.
This can't be legal? Milage alterations.
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avenger286

Original Poster:

425 posts

133 months

Friday 26th January 2018
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Was browsing ebay and stumbled across this 202197618897 (ebay number)
Especially stating that taking the miles down will increase the value of your car!
Surely this is clocking the vehicle so is illegal.
To me this is blatantly advertising an illegal service on eBay.
Am I correct in thinking this?

anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 26th January 2018
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Mileage correction isn't illegal, passing a 'corrected' car off via sale is.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Friday 26th January 2018
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Changing the mileage isn't illegal. Using an altered mileage to get more money for the car is.

I'm really not sure it's the only thing advertised on eBay that may not be 100% totally kosher...

xjay1337

15,966 posts

148 months

Friday 26th January 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
Changing the mileage isn't illegal. Using an altered mileage to get more money for the car is.

I'm really not sure it's the only thing advertised on eBay that may not be 100% totally kosher...
Quite so.

Just keep on scrolling.

hotchy

4,829 posts

156 months

Friday 26th January 2018
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You think these cheap lease deals of fancy jeeps really only do 3000 a year? Im surprised its so easy though.

shakotan

10,862 posts

226 months

Friday 26th January 2018
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Report Item>Prohibited and Restricted Items>Illegal items and items encouraging illegal activity>Other illegal activity concerns

justinio

1,180 posts

118 months

Friday 26th January 2018
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Theres nothing illegal about changing a cars mileage.

If you try to defraud someone though, thats a different kettle of fish.

avenger286

Original Poster:

425 posts

133 months

Friday 26th January 2018
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I know it go's on and always has done. But this is just someone advertising it for all to see. I have reported it but its still there. To me it's just as bad as selling logbooks and tags.

Red 4

10,744 posts

217 months

Friday 26th January 2018
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anonymous said:
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He means some vehicles may be clocked to avoid excess mileage charges on lease deals.

Spend 80 quid on mileage correction, save hundreds.

It is surprising where some cars store their mileage though - it's not just the odometer.

ghost83

5,639 posts

220 months

Friday 26th January 2018
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It’s not as easy on modern cars

Bmw for example store the mileage in quite a few places including the headlights apparently

Mileage correction isn’t illegal but trying to defraud someone is

Eddieslofart

1,328 posts

113 months

Friday 26th January 2018
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ghost83 said:
It’s not as easy on modern cars

Bmw for example store the mileage in quite a few places including the headlights apparently

Mileage correction isn’t illegal but trying to defraud someone is
It’s stored in 3 places. Which the ‘correction’ experts are well aware of. I would think their business has boomed since MOT info went online.

Plastic chicken

391 posts

234 months

Saturday 27th January 2018
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Ok, I'll ask the obvious question..why would anyone want to correct a mileage unless it was to commit fraud/misrepresentation?

Olivera

8,782 posts

269 months

Saturday 27th January 2018
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Plastic chicken said:
Ok, I'll ask the obvious question..why would anyone want to correct a mileage unless it was to commit fraud/misrepresentation?
An odometer unit can, and sometimes does fail. This did happen on a car I used to own. At which point you may want the mileage set on the new odometer unit back to the original value.

Plastic chicken

391 posts

234 months

Saturday 27th January 2018
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Olivera said:
Plastic chicken said:
Ok, I'll ask the obvious question..why would anyone want to correct a mileage unless it was to commit fraud/misrepresentation?
An odometer unit can, and sometimes does fail. This did happen on a car I used to own. At which point you may want the mileage set on the new odometer unit back to the original value.
Yep, I accept that, however failure is rare, and the firm that replaces the odometer should also be able to set the new one to the original value. Assuming they fit a new one with zero miles, the honest thing to do is reset it to approximately the mileage when the failure occurred. The reality is that most people use these firms to wind back mileages.

Pistonheader101

2,206 posts

137 months

Saturday 27th January 2018
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Plastic chicken said:
Olivera said:
Plastic chicken said:
Ok, I'll ask the obvious question..why would anyone want to correct a mileage unless it was to commit fraud/misrepresentation?
An odometer unit can, and sometimes does fail. This did happen on a car I used to own. At which point you may want the mileage set on the new odometer unit back to the original value.
Yep, I accept that, however failure is rare, and the firm that replaces the odometer should also be able to set the new one to the original value. Assuming they fit a new one with zero miles, the honest thing to do is reset it to approximately the mileage when the failure occurred. The reality is that most people use these firms to wind back mileages.
More often that not its for kosher reasons.

hutchst

3,727 posts

126 months

Saturday 27th January 2018
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10 years ago my late father in law took his recently acquired S-Type to the main dealer for its 60,000 mile service. They plugged it in and phoned him to tell him it already had that service 2 years previously, and the 90,000

mp3manager

4,254 posts

226 months

Saturday 27th January 2018
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Plastic chicken said:
Ok, I'll ask the obvious question..why would anyone want to correct a mileage unless it was to commit fraud/misrepresentation?
Mileage correction on JDM cars from kms to miles.



MB140

5,069 posts

133 months

Saturday 27th January 2018
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It used to be as simple as disconnecting the Bowden cable to the speedometer at the gearbox end. Remember certain rpm/gear selected and you knew the speeds for the limits.

Reconnect before the mot and then disconnect again afterwards.

BossHogg

7,528 posts

208 months

Saturday 27th January 2018
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We sold a 2 year old ex patrol car with 210000 miles on the clock. I checked on the .gov mot history site and its first mot showed it had a mileage of only 30000! It's latest mot shows it has 90000 miles!

Yipper

5,964 posts

120 months

Saturday 27th January 2018
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This is getting quite common now on leases.

Folk get a cheap-as-chips 5000-mpa deal, and just keep winding the clock back every time it gets near the limit. Some claim they save thousands in excess-mileage charges.