Fine, for 12 hours at Service Station, M6 Toll
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Except I stopped there on way up to Liverpool for breakfast and stopped on way down for dinner, before continuing to London.
Retards have a pic of my car entering at around 8am and another one of my car leaving around 9pm.
Yep! I love doing 280 mile round trips just to sit at a services from sun up till sun down.
Is it still the case to ignore the letter or do I have to appeal?
Fekin tiresome. Money grabbing twuntS.
Retards have a pic of my car entering at around 8am and another one of my car leaving around 9pm.
Yep! I love doing 280 mile round trips just to sit at a services from sun up till sun down.
Is it still the case to ignore the letter or do I have to appeal?
Fekin tiresome. Money grabbing twuntS.
First of all DO NOT reply to the speculative invoice until you have done following
Get onto pepipoo.com...this smacks of a double dip which is easily got rid of.
Listen and do what the guyd on pepipoo tell you to do esp re the contact...it is always the driver did this or the river did that
Is it a lease or company car? if so let pepipoo know asap as there is a diffrent way to approach this
Have you any receipts for the period between the in and out times they claim? if so hang onto them they are you secret weapon
BUT DO get onto pepipoo. these companies rely on mumpties riolling over for their existence..fight them as seems the cae here and the money stays in your pocket
Get onto pepipoo.com...this smacks of a double dip which is easily got rid of.
Listen and do what the guyd on pepipoo tell you to do esp re the contact...it is always the driver did this or the river did that
Is it a lease or company car? if so let pepipoo know asap as there is a diffrent way to approach this
Have you any receipts for the period between the in and out times they claim? if so hang onto them they are you secret weapon
BUT DO get onto pepipoo. these companies rely on mumpties riolling over for their existence..fight them as seems the cae here and the money stays in your pocket
Nice to see yor post on there.
What they are asking is that you photocopy both sides of the tick but redact ant info that could indentfy you
You cannot put the pics straight on but have to have a hosting site to link it to.
I think there is a link on there on how to do it.
Do not contact the PPC until further advice from peopipoo
What they are asking is that you photocopy both sides of the tick but redact ant info that could indentfy you
You cannot put the pics straight on but have to have a hosting site to link it to.
I think there is a link on there on how to do it.
Do not contact the PPC until further advice from peopipoo
I can find bank statements that show payment of toll both north and south, lunch bought in Liverpool and whatsapp conversations and pics of my day in Liverpool whilst my daughter was at her interview.
I guess my problem is that statements or receipts don't prove my car was with me.
Just beggars belief that they cannot comprehend that you might visit the same services in one day.
We do it for work quite often and always go to same place up and down to break the journey and as there are a number of trucks and cars, we can all meet up.
I guess my problem is that statements or receipts don't prove my car was with me.
Just beggars belief that they cannot comprehend that you might visit the same services in one day.
We do it for work quite often and always go to same place up and down to break the journey and as there are a number of trucks and cars, we can all meet up.
Edited by croyde on Saturday 17th February 14:17
The stuff I am reading seems to suggest that an appeal will be ignored and that I have to go down some long winded battle with the correct words and templates.
Really fekin angry about this and tempted to pay a solicitor and sue them in court, even if it does cost me more than the fine.
There is a number, high rate, and it says that it's not for appeals.
I have been calling the services themselves in order to complain but no one is picking up.
Really fekin angry about this and tempted to pay a solicitor and sue them in court, even if it does cost me more than the fine.
There is a number, high rate, and it says that it's not for appeals.
I have been calling the services themselves in order to complain but no one is picking up.
This sort of modern day s
t really wears you down, having to waste your personal time to avoid being punished for something you haven't done but someone else has a vested interest in not accepting it.
The opportunity to smack the owner of that company in the face with an iron bar would be worth several of the tickets.
t really wears you down, having to waste your personal time to avoid being punished for something you haven't done but someone else has a vested interest in not accepting it.The opportunity to smack the owner of that company in the face with an iron bar would be worth several of the tickets.
Willy Nilly said:
Surely a quick phone call will sort it out?
Unfortunately not, they may not pursue in court, but they will keep sending letters, often from their own debt recovery companies, in the hope that some will pay, and some would even though they weren't there, as letters saying court action etc will be taken, does scare some people.cmaguire said:
This sort of modern day st really wears you down, having to waste your personal time to avoid being punished for something you haven't done but someone else has a vested interest in not accepting it.
The opportunity to smack the owner of that company in the face with an iron bar would be worth several of the tickets.
Very true. I have wasted most of my afternoon on a lovely day, tracking down receipts and any other evidence that shows that I was not sitting idly at a motorway services all day.t really wears you down, having to waste your personal time to avoid being punished for something you haven't done but someone else has a vested interest in not accepting it.The opportunity to smack the owner of that company in the face with an iron bar would be worth several of the tickets.
This has got to a be a case for all those PPI, ever been in an accident etc lawyers.
Start giving these shysters a bloody nose and then they might not be so quick to send out dodgy fines.
croyde
Looks like you have it sorted
You must understand that these buggers only exist because people cave in and pay. Take a bit of time. Follow the pepipoo route and they will spend more money on nothing
You MAY get letters threatening court action we MAY do this, but they very rarely do
IF you get any correspondence from Debt Collections agencies ( NOTE no baliffs) just tell them to the debt is denied and if further contact is made it will be considered as harrassment ( pep will give you the full SP itf that happens) you have them by the short and curlies with the receipts just play with them
Looks like you have it sorted
You must understand that these buggers only exist because people cave in and pay. Take a bit of time. Follow the pepipoo route and they will spend more money on nothing
You MAY get letters threatening court action we MAY do this, but they very rarely do
IF you get any correspondence from Debt Collections agencies ( NOTE no baliffs) just tell them to the debt is denied and if further contact is made it will be considered as harrassment ( pep will give you the full SP itf that happens) you have them by the short and curlies with the receipts just play with them
croyde said:
I can find bank statements that show payment of toll both north and south, lunch bought in Liverpool and whatsapp conversations and pics of my day in Liverpool whilst my daughter was at her interview.
I guess my problem is that statements or receipts don't prove my car was with me.
Indeed. For all they know, you may have left your car there and travelled up with a friend/colleague in their car.I guess my problem is that statements or receipts don't prove my car was with me.
croyde said:
Just beggars belief that they cannot comprehend that you might visit the same services in one day.
A cynic would suggest that it does seem odd that the ANPR picked your car up on the way in in the morning and out in the evening, but not the way out in the morning or in in the evening. Which, of course, is the pattern it would pick up if it had been there all day.croyde said:
We do it for work quite often and always go to same place up and down to break the journey and as there are a number of trucks and cars, we can all meet up.
...and that cynic would also point out that you could then save fuel/destination parking by combining vehicles...My wife got a letter from a parking enforcement company. The park allows 20 minutes free but regardless, on the 12 Dec (conveniently) it stated that about 2 months prior... la la la
At which point it becomes moot having timed out. Clearly a 'see how many dumb-asses fall for this' scam.
Some might be inclined to pay the 'fine' (invoice) because they are intimidated and simply donate to the companies Christmas pot...
At which point it becomes moot having timed out. Clearly a 'see how many dumb-asses fall for this' scam.
Some might be inclined to pay the 'fine' (invoice) because they are intimidated and simply donate to the companies Christmas pot...
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